I've been happily using it ever since I got my 680 (hmmm...4 months ago) and discovered that the button layout on my new toy was different from that of my beloved 650. _______ Bill
> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed > > A quick look and it's promoting use on the 700P. > Works on the 680 as well? > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Bill Gamble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:wwgamble%40yahoo.com> > > > > Try using LudusP to assign Zlauncher to the home key. > > http://www.ludustech.com/ludusp/ <http://www.ludustech.com/ludusp/> > > > > _______ > > Bill > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > > > Behalf Of J Messeder > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:07 AM > > > To: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: Re: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed > > > > > > I've skimmed the thread and will go back and read more > thoroughly, > > > but ... > > > PalmInternals showed, under hede, ZLauncher, > pToolsButtonsOn, and Jot. > > > I turned off Jot, deleted pTools, and rebooted. PI speed > went to 73. > > > Then I turned off ZLauncher (didn't uninstall it - just > deselected > > > it as the default launcher: Speed went to 6! > > > Wowzer! > > > > > > Bill Gamble wrote: > > > > There's a giant thread on this here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots of posts discussing the effect of Zlauncher's various > > > settings, > > > > along with various graffiti apps. > > > > _______ > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> ] > > > >> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> <mailto:jmesseder%40comcast.net> > > > >> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:22 PM > > > >> To: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> Subject: RE: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed > > > >> > > > >> ---hede--- > > > >> 127 'ZLauncher' > > > >> 128 'pToolButtons' m68k 7325691E DBCache > > > >> 129 'Jot' m68k 7311EE90 DBCache ref 73114EA8 > > > >> > > > >> I guess I need to get into some docs when I get home > this evening. > > > >> > > > >> Thing is, I could lose ZLauncher and lose some > convenience, and > > > >> pToolsButtons is allegedly required to operate any of the > > > tools with > > > >> pedit, which I'm starting to use a lot, and Jot (or I may try > > > >> TealScript) is necessary because I write on-screen rather > > > than with > > > >> the keyboard. > > > >> Still, it might be informative to see by dropping each to see > > > >> what improvements are available. > > > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > > > >> From: "Bill Gamble" > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> OK, now launch PI and tap the "Notif." button. What's > > > >>> > > > >> listed under HEDE? > > > >> > > > >>> That's where the slowness is introduced. > > > >>> > > > >>> I've narrowed my HEDE-hooking apps down to my most > important 4 > > > >>> (Butler, KeyCaps600, FieldPlus and Hi-Launcher) and my speed > > > >>> test comes in at an acceptable (to me) 13 seconds. > > > >>> > > > >>> _______ > > > >>> Bill > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >>>> > > > ] > > > >>>> On Behalf Of J Messeder > > > >>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:31 AM > > > >>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed > > > >>>> > > > >>>> TakePHone > > > >>>> DateBook > > > >>>> ZLauncher > > > >>>> Pedit > > > >>>> eReader > > > >>>> Jot > > > >>>> Secret! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Time in tics 9511, time in secs 95 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> A little scary when the first thing it says on first > > > >>>> > > > >> invocation is > > > >> > > > >>>> it may cause NVFS machines to crash. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Bill Gamble wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Are those the only 3rd party apps that you're using? > > > >>>>> > > > >> What result > > > >> > > > >>>>> do you get when running the Palm Internals speed > test (menu -> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> Speed Test): > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> _______ > > > >>>>> Bill > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> ] > > > >> > > > >>>>>> On Behalf Of J Messeder > > > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:16 AM > > > >>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I've noticed that some. A couple of times, I've answered > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> the phone, > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> and the 680 has paused, then rebooted. > > > >>>>>> And I agree with the app-switching, I wonder how much that > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> would be > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> noticeable were I using the native apps instead of > > > >>>>>> > > > >> TakePHone and > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Dtbk. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Jeffrey Kaplan wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Hello, Bill Gamble. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:46:21 -0400 you said: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> While app-switching seems poky on the 680 compared to > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>> the 650 (the > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>>>> price paid for stability), I haven't noticed any slowness > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> within individual apps. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> FWIW, I do occasionally see the entire system > freeze up for > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> a couple > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> of seconds while doing something. I see this most often > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> when playing > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> one of the solitaire games from Red Mercury. In case it > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> matters, I > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>>> have the "sparkle hints" enabled. For a card game, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> it's pretty > > > >> > > > >>>>>>> graphics intensive. > > > >>>>>>>
