I just downloaded it and assigned ZLauncher to Home -- which has the same 
effect as making ZLauncher the default launcher --
    Except that using the default check, the speed is 90 seconds
    And making the assignment with LudusP is 6 seconds.

If that's the only button I assign, it's worth the $5 registration.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Bill Gamble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> I've been happily using it ever since I got my 680 (hmmm...4 months ago) and 
> discovered that the button layout on my new toy was different from that of 
> my beloved 650. 
> _______ 
> Bill 
> 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:14 PM 
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Subject: RE: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed 
> > 
> > A quick look and it's promoting use on the 700P. 
> > Works on the 680 as well? 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "Bill Gamble" > > > 
> > 
> > > Try using LudusP to assign Zlauncher to the home key. 
> > > http://www.ludustech.com/ludusp/ 
> > > 
> > > _______ 
> > > Bill 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > From: [email protected] 
> > > > [mailto:[email protected] ] On 
> > > > Behalf Of J Messeder 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:07 AM 
> > > > To: [email protected] 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed 
> > > > 
> > > > I've skimmed the thread and will go back and read more 
> > thoroughly, 
> > > > but ... 
> > > > PalmInternals showed, under hede, ZLauncher, 
> > pToolsButtonsOn, and Jot. 
> > > > I turned off Jot, deleted pTools, and rebooted. PI speed 
> > went to 73. 
> > > > Then I turned off ZLauncher (didn't uninstall it - just 
> > deselected 
> > > > it as the default launcher: Speed went to 6! 
> > > > Wowzer! 
> > > > 
> > > > Bill Gamble wrote: 
> > > > > There's a giant thread on this here: 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Lots of posts discussing the effect of Zlauncher's various 
> > > > settings, 
> > > > > along with various graffiti apps. 
> > > > > _______ 
> > > > > Bill 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >> -----Original Message----- 
> > > > >> From: [email protected] 
> > > > >> [mailto:[email protected] 
> > ] 
> > > > >> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:22 PM 
> > > > >> To: [email protected] 
> > > > >> Subject: RE: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> ---hede--- 
> > > > >> 127 'ZLauncher' 
> > > > >> 128 'pToolButtons' m68k 7325691E DBCache 
> > > > >> 129 'Jot' m68k 7311EE90 DBCache ref 73114EA8 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> I guess I need to get into some docs when I get home 
> > this evening. 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Thing is, I could lose ZLauncher and lose some 
> > convenience, and 
> > > > >> pToolsButtons is allegedly required to operate any of the 
> > > > tools with 
> > > > >> pedit, which I'm starting to use a lot, and Jot (or I may try 
> > > > >> TealScript) is necessary because I write on-screen rather 
> > > > than with 
> > > > >> the keyboard. 
> > > > >> Still, it might be informative to see by dropping each to see 
> > > > >> what improvements are available. 
> > > > >> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > >> From: "Bill Gamble" > > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>> OK, now launch PI and tap the "Notif." button. What's 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >> listed under HEDE? 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>> That's where the slowness is introduced. 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> I've narrowed my HEDE-hooking apps down to my most 
> > important 4 
> > > > >>> (Butler, KeyCaps600, FieldPlus and Hi-Launcher) and my speed 
> > > > >>> test comes in at an acceptable (to me) 13 seconds. 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> _______ 
> > > > >>> Bill 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- 
> > > > >>>> From: [email protected] 
> > > > >>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > ] 
> > > > >>>> On Behalf Of J Messeder 
> > > > >>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:31 AM 
> > > > >>>> To: [email protected] 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> TakePHone 
> > > > >>>> DateBook 
> > > > >>>> ZLauncher 
> > > > >>>> Pedit 
> > > > >>>> eReader 
> > > > >>>> Jot 
> > > > >>>> Secret! 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> Time in tics 9511, time in secs 95 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> A little scary when the first thing it says on first 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >> invocation is 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>>> it may cause NVFS machines to crash. 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> Bill Gamble wrote: 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>> Are those the only 3rd party apps that you're using? 
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >> What result 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>>>> do you get when running the Palm Internals speed 
> > test (menu -> 
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >>>> Speed Test): 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>> _______ 
> > > > >>>>> Bill 
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- 
> > > > >>>>>> From: [email protected] 
> > > > >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
> > 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >> ] 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>>>>> On Behalf Of J Messeder 
> > > > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:16 AM 
> > > > >>>>>> To: [email protected] 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> I've noticed that some. A couple of times, I've answered 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>> the phone, 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> and the 680 has paused, then rebooted. 
> > > > >>>>>> And I agree with the app-switching, I wonder how much that 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>> would be 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> noticeable were I using the native apps instead of 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >> TakePHone and 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>>>>> Dtbk. 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> Jeffrey Kaplan wrote: 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> Hello, Bill Gamble. 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:46:21 -0400 you said: 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>>> While app-switching seems poky on the 680 compared to 
> > > > >>>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>> the 650 (the 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>>> price paid for stability), I haven't noticed any slowness 
> > > > >>>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> within individual apps. 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> FWIW, I do occasionally see the entire system 
> > freeze up for 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> a couple 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> of seconds while doing something. I see this most often 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> when playing 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> one of the solitaire games from Red Mercury. In case it 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >>>> matters, I 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>>>> have the "sparkle hints" enabled. For a card game, 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> > > > >> it's pretty 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>>>>>> graphics intensive. 
> > > > >>>>>>> 
> 
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