Chatter certainly enjoys a reputation of being a powerful IMAP-based
email client.  My own experience with it, as well as that of at least a
couple of others, is that it resulted in instability on my Treo.  Its
author would no doubt (justifiably) say that this is because other
applications, not Chatter, are the cause of the instability in the
presence of Chatter.  This for me is a distinction without a difference,
since I am unwilling to give up the other applications (whichever one(s)
could not work and play nice with Chatter).  IMAP with Chatter may be
the way to go for just push email, but Versamail's implementation of
push support for Exchange gives me push calendar and contacts in
addition to email - something Chatter cannot do.  For me, and now for
two of my clients, this makes Versamail and Outlook with hosted Exchange
the way to go!

One slight correction:  the service that one can use with Versamail (and
Outlook) is called "Microsoft Exchange", not "Outlook" nor "Outlook
Exchange" as it's referred to below.

My hope is that Palm with take the best of Chatter (IMAP support so
Exchange isn't required for push email (not everybody needs push
calendar/contacts); support for multiple folders, not just the Inbox
(Versamail only supports the Exchange inbox)) and combine them with the
best of Versamail (stability, support for Exchange Activesync) and add a
support for tasks and Notes via push (if, in fact, Exchange supports
this).  Now THAT would be something!!

Cheers,
Don

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
sddawson
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Treo] Re: Push Versamail

--- In [email protected], "Bill Motzing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks again. I'm still getting up to speed on e-mail technologies.
> Fastmail.FM provides IMAP email accounts that allow you to use
Versamail and
> sync with Outlook because the folders are all kept on a server. Basic
> service is $14.95 one time fee.
>  
> I'm still not fully up to speed with all email technologies, however I
> understand IMAP is partially push technology. From what I understand
it will
> alert you but not send the whole message. Anyone that has more info
> regarding Versamail and IMAP push capabilities please let me know. As
an
> aside, the iPhone will use Push IMAP, a new protocol based on IMAP.

The IMAP protocol supports a command called IDLE. This lets an email
client sit and "listen". When a new email arrives, the IMAP server
send an unsolicited message to the client, and the client then
retrieves the email. This makes it "push".

Versamail doesn't support the IDLE command, and is therefore only push
with Outlook. There is a great Treo email client called Chatter, which
does support IDLE. It even runs in the background so it gets
notification of emails while you're running other apps. I've been
using it for ages in conjunction with a Fastmail account. It's
brilliant, and better than Versamail. So brilliant, in fact, that Palm
recently bought it! You can find it at
http://www.palm.com/us/chatteremail/. Unfortunately, it costs, but to
my mind it's well worth it. You can download a trial to test.

If you use an IMAP client on multiple platforms, you have one view of
your email, because it lives on the IMAP server. Doesn't require
Outlook Exchange, but you can use Outlook, Outlook Express (which both
support IDLE too) to access the IMAP server. Even clients that don't
support IDLE (Apple Mail for example until Leopard) work fine - they
just poll on a set frequency like POP clients, but the mail still
lives on the server so stuff you read or delete on one client is
reflected on the other. Definitely the way to go!

Have fun!

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