Jason, perfectly said. I second your comments. - - - - - Sandro Campos Mancini
-----Original Message----- From: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, Aug 26, 2007 10:19 am Subject: Re: [Treo] Palm Responds to Engadget To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [email protected] >You're right, Carl, the cellular market is huge with smartphones being >only a small part of it. But the people who buy smartphones know what >else is out there and while others like RIM, and Apple have come out with >new, innovative products the last few years Palm's current top of the line >is only marginally better than what they were selling three years ago when >they were the bleeding edge. Go out and play with an iPhone for a couple >of minutes and you'll see how far behind Palm has fallen. They've been >left in the dust and the Foleo isn't likely to do much to encourage smart >phone especially at $600. I can get a full laptop for that much and the >only thing I would miss is fast boot and a pound or so. The only reason I >can think that the Foleo might make any sense is as a development test >platform for the Linux-based Treo. Otherwise it's nothing but wasted >resources. It won't sell well. > >If people are so starved for a Treo's functionality today why aren't they >using Treos? AT&T will give you a 680 for free with a 2-year contract so >it certainly isn't price and they're all over the stores so it's not >availability or mindshare either. > >As for what capabilities the Treo is missing how about HSDPA? How about >built-in A2DP? How about stability? I have to reset my 680 at least >twice a week and that's a no-op for most people. My wife doesn't >understand how I can deal with it, though she's not the technophile that I >am. :-) > >All of that said I am a big fan of Palm and I really hope they get their >act together. Otherwise the iPhone 2.0, whenever it comes out, is looking >pretty good. > >-Jason > >On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Carl W. Brooks wrote: > >> I don't get you guys. The cellular market is huge. There are nore users >> with a normal phone. There are few less that can simply take a call, >> take a pic and send SMS. >> >> The features that a Palm OS phone can perform out weighs most phone on >> the market as it is without Linux, without Wifi, without any new >> feature. >> >> The percentage that has any clue what you guys want are a much smaller >> group. Combine all the users of Smartphones, Treos, Q's, Razors or any >> popular phone you can name and that number does not compare to the >> number of people starving to have a phone that offers what Palm's phones >> offer today. Palm would very well with a Centro that would appear to >> those people with the right price and with features that they never had >> before. >> >> With that said, Palm still should continue to improve on the highend >> devices. I am one of the most heavy duty power users you ever meet and >> there is nothing that I am missing in my Treo 755p that make even >> slightly think of going with any other platform. >> >> I work with these devices and have seen everything on the market and >> have seen the support side of the hype that follow these dream phones >> that everyone keeps thinking will save them mobile puratory. >> >> As much as people think the Centro and the Foleo are terrible ideals are >> missing something in the translation. Wait until these are in the market >> and they person is sitting next to and using it, I bet your tune will >> change. >> >> Thanks, >> I'll see you on the web! >> >> Carl W. Brooks >> http://www.Palmloyal.com >> >> Palm Podcasts, Daily News, Software, Hardware, Mobile Email Services and >> More! >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Sandro Campos Mancini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 8:16 pm >> Subject: Re: [Treo] Palm Responds to Engadget >> To: <[email protected]>Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> I simply don't believe him. This is Palm's PR bullshit machine in action >> once again. They have been promising MANY things during the last YEARS ans >> delivered very little. Palm will either release a decent Smartphone in 2008 >> with PalmOS 2, or cease to exist (as a Smartphone player, it may survive by >> selling reheated models and expanding in third world markets and in the >> bargain market in developed countries by going low-cost through price cuts >> and carrier subsidies, but it will just be a blip in the Smartphone radar, a >> sad remain of the tsunami the Treo once was. >> >> - - - - - >> Sandro Campos Mancini >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JLV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 9:14 am >> Subject: [Treo] Palm Responds to Engadget >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [email protected] >> >> Thanks Engadget >> >>> Dear Peter, Ryan and Joshua: >> >>> Thank you for the very thoughtful post about Palm. I really >> appreciate the fact that you guys and others care enough to take the >> time to write such a comprehensive list of actions. I forwarded it to >> our entire executive staff and many others at Palm have read it. >> Although I cant say I agree with every point, many are right on. We >> are attacking almost every challenge you noted, so stay tuned. Lets >> remember that it is very early in the evolution of the smartphone and >> there is enormous opportunity for us to innovate. We have only just >> begun to fight! >> >>> Thank you for taking the time to write. I really do take your >> comments to heart and I know the team at Palm is totally committed to >> delivering the best mobile computing solutions in the world. >> >>> -Ed Colligan >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > >-- >-Jason > >----- > --- There are no absolute statements. I'm very probably wrong. --- >"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." > - Albert Einstein > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! 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