Don - I have a Motorola Q and while I don't like it for certain
things, and I do see some of the menu inefficiencies you see, it's not
THAT bad

On 10/12/07, Don Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 0.    Let's just start with the fact that there is just ONE on button
> that turns the thing on.  It's not on the top, or other convenient
> place.  It's on one side, and looks like all the other buttons.  You
> start each experience on the Mogul by pressing that button, and by being
> taken to the Today screen, regardless of where you were before.

That's a Mogul thing. I have buttons that take me to the Camera,
Email/SMS, Today scren, and dial screen.

> 1.    On the Treo, if I want to quickly grab a headset to continue a
> conversation hands free, I can just plug it in.  The Mogul doesn't have
> a 2.5mm jack, so I have to carry/use the adapter provided by HTC, or the
> headset provided by HTC.

I have a 2.5mm headset, but the pins are different such that Treo
stereo headset doesn't allow me to talk and I can hear only from one
side. I suppose I could talk into the other earbud, but I've never
tried.

> 2.    On the Treo, I press the email button and I'm looking at my email
> box.  On the Mogul, there is a dedicated email button, but to get to the
> place where I'm looking at my inbox, I have to press that button, and
> THEN press another button (or screen tap) to actually get to the inbox.

On mine I have an intermediate screen that lets me select from SMS,
POP Mail and Outlook. If I add additional accounts they show up on
that screen.

> 3.    On the Treo, if I want to call someone in my address book, I start
> typing the name and the list narrows down.  When I see the one I want, I
> push a button to dial it. On the Mogul, after turning on the thing,
> being taken to the Today screen and then pressing the button for the
> address book, I still have to use the on-screen keyboard or slide out
> the sideways keyboard to type in a few letters.   Yes, the Mogul has
> voice tags, which are good if you have them stored, and the keypad dial
> has a nifty thing where you can press the numbers corresponding to the
> letters you're looking for to narrow a list from the address book.  On
> the Treo I really don't need those, and/or I can buy them.

On my Today screen, I just start typing the name or the number and it
starts narrowing down the search or punching up the number and it's
smart enough that if I Press 32 (which also corresponds to RE) it
brings up a list of names and numbers that start with 32 or Re
allowing me to select them or continue punching in a number if that's
what I want. And If i went ahead and typed REN It brings up those
names.

> 4.    On the Treo, I can put in extra digits to be dialed automatically
> when calling, for instance, my voicemail system.  I can find no place in
> the Mogul to do that.

I've never had a need for that.

> 5.    The scroll wheel on the Mogul is nice, but it and the OFF button
> on the opposite side are precisely positioned so that if I use the press
> to select feature of the scroll wheel, my index finger on the other side
> pushes the OFF button.  Every time.  And then, you guessed it, I have to
> press it again and I get taken back to the Today screen to start over.

Again - looks like an HTC design issue. IMO the with my 700p, I hated
the way when I was in pTunes and turned off the screen, and
accidentally hit one of the launcher buttons, I'd have to hunt my way
back to pTunes whenever I wanted to change something.

> 6.    Multitasking, yes.  FORCED multitasking, NO!  WinMob 6 still does
> the "leave it running in memory even if I close it" thing, and provides
> no way to return to running programs (other than the way one always
> starts them), and a deeply buried screen where one can go to end all
> running programs.  Who thinks of these things?  The problem is that
> leaving all these programs running fills up the available memory,
> necessitating user action to continue.

Someone on this list recommended Magic Button - a software that closes
apps when you click the X close button. I can't use it on the Q, but
you should be able to on your touch screen device.

> Anyway, that list is long enough.   I could describe nearly every
> function of the thing and there would be between 1 and 100% more
> operations needed to accomplish a given task on the Mogul compared to
> the Treo.  It'd be interesting to see how the Treo 700wx stacks up here,
> since I know it's tailored, and has the excellent always-available
> keyboard, but I just couldn't go back to that form factor after having
> the 755p!!  I guess the 750 is comparable to the 755, albeit with a
> 240x240 screen and AT&T service.

Just my $.02. I think others have suggested other third party software
as well. My 700p and 600 would have been just as frustrating without
the aid of third party software.

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War Eagle

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