I'm on a Sprint Pre. The Pre+ may be different.
      I've only installed the 1.3.5.1 update, Evernote, and Google 
calendar/contacts/email. There is another email account I'll get working 
later tonight or tomorrow.
      My first Pre gave me heartburn. Started out it seemed to be 
working fine, then I discovered it was not downloading from my work 
email account. It was a POP account, and the server tech could see me 
trying, but I wasn't getting the mail.
      I finally gave up trying and did a Full Erase -- and then nothing 
worked correctly and the Spring guy, who'd helped me try to get the 
email working said if stuff didn't work after the Full Erase, here's a 
new phone.
      I tell that stuff to tell this: I'm loving the darn thing. When 
it's working -- and so far it seems to be -- it's way ahead of the Treo 
Pro I moved from.
      When I edit a contact on Google, it updates on the Pre, and vice 
versa. Same for calendar, and Evernote. Email from Google works great; 
I'm hoping to get Google to grab from my work POP account and IMAP to 
the Pre. I'll let y'all know how that works out.
      Those are my core apps. Evrything else is yet to be tried by me. 
If any of those four apps doesn't work, I don't get to write why anyone 
would want the Pre.
      There is some lag between asking the Pre to do something and when 
it actually gets going on the command. I don't think it's any than the 
Treo Pro.
      Its screen is half-again the size of the TP, and very crisp. 
Pictures look real good on it. The browser is OK, but I have to admit to 
not using it much. I don't to much web browsing.
      I like the launcher, like ZLauncher in PalmOS, only prettier and 
faster, with three screens that allow you to visually catagorize your apps.
      So far, I have one consistent gripe -- the keyboard is smaller 
than the TP, and surrounded by, on three sides, a ridge around the 
keyboard, and on the top, the large wall of the bottom of the display. 
For a guy who does as much keyboarding as I do, and with my thumbs, 
that's a bother.
      I tried the virtual keyboard patch on Pre #1 and decided I 
probably could get used to it. Now I've got Pre #2 and haven't yet 
installed the patch.
      It's the one thing that could make me switch away from the Pre, in 
favor of either the HTC Hero or Samsung Moment. The Hero's camera is, 
reviews seem consistently to say, slow and blurry. The Pre's camera is 
the opposite, but doesn't do video. Rumor is OS Update 1.4 will have video.
      The Hero is a candy bar style, with only a virtual keyboard. Same 
resolution as the Pre, but a larger screen by about 1/4 inch in both 
directions, making more room for larger keys.
      I'm a journalist and I do a lot of writing on the handheld device. 
If I can't write on the screen, which I could on all the Treos, at least 
give me a decent keyboard. Jury's still out on the Pre.
      The Moment has a slider keyboard, like the Pre, but in landscape 
to the Pre's portrait orientation.
      In sum -- if I can get comfortable with the Pre's keyboard, I'll 
be in love. The TP was nice, but ActiveStink stank. It would only sync a 
couple times a day, and odds were if I edited on both the TP and online, 
I'd get a "changes on the server" error that would require an unlink and 
relink/rebuild the connections with the Google databases.


On 1/29/2010 7:18 PM, ldouglas wrote:
> what about the Pre is so much better than, say, a Treo Pro

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