@ Tsungi - thanks for the encouragement. I'm glad my testimony ministered to you in that way J If there's one thing I've learnt it's to praise Him when I feel like it and even more when I don't. Indeed God is faithful!
@Elisha - thank you for bringing new revelation to the story of Joseph. I think I can really relate to him right now! And the illustration of the general with his battle wounds and scars is now so vivid in my mind. I have no doubt Eli that you are destined for great places. You will serve before kings and not mere men. You have a faithful spirit, and everything you have gone through has been building a tenacity in you so that you can advance against a troop and scale a wall. The interesting thing is with spiritual things, you don't see the results immediately. In the flesh it would appear that we are not progressing and yet in the spirit realm we are actually being accelerated to greater heights. As Pastor Bonnie once said, Purpose outlasts Persecution. Karen Nyaumwe Audit Senior | Audit & Assurance Deloitte & Touche Kenilworth Gardens, 1 Kenilworth Road, Highlands, P O Box 267, Harare, Zimbabwe Tel: +263 (0)4 746247-54 | Fax: +263 (0)4 746255 | Mobile: +263 (0)912 735 895 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> | www.deloitte.com Please consider the environment before printing From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tsungi Mukandi Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thank God for Pain! Hey Guys I`ve just been reading the mails that have been coming through and I`ve been really encouraged. Pastor Lynco`s word was such a word in season for me. You know guys I was speaking with one of my friends last week, and we got to talking about how painful some experiences have been but how God has been so faithful through it all. I read Karen and Elisha`s testimonies and I thought to myself wow those are really testimonies unto God because when I see both of them Saturday after Saturday all I see is Gods grace and strength shining through. But when I hear about the struggle behind the strength and the pain behind the glory I too can begin to have faith that I`ll always come out stronger and more victorious if I hold fast to God. Thanks guys you`ve really made my day. Tsungi On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Karambakuwa Elisha <[email protected]> wrote: Thanx Karen, those are indeed encouraging words. And to think every time I met Chief Nkosi she had the same smile on her face even though she had no Zesa and water, I cannot even imagine going for day without Zesa. Saturday's message reminds me of Pst Tom's message: Dungeons & Dreams where he said that before Joseph was in the palace he had to go through the dungeon. The dungeon came before the Palace. He also talked about divine delays -sometimes we are delayed from where we are meant to be in our divine way which is in our best interests. E.g. Joseph could have excelled as Potiphar's house manager and that would have been it for him and that would never have impacted his family in times of need, not to mention the history of the whole nation of Israel!!! But he had to be framed in order to go to the dungeon so that he would brush shoulders with the king's servants and thus get an audience with the king himself. Without the dungeon there would not have been the palace. So sometimes things get hard and we ask ourselves why we are here??? Sometimes I wonder what I am doing in Zimbabwe and if there is any hope for a better future here; sometimes I wonder what could have happened if I had gone overseas to study...and where I did be now...and like you Karen I wonder where I would be if I had not been delayed with my studies; where would I have been if I had not spend 3 years working for my dad instead of getting a job and thus stalling my career, my future and my whole life. But on Saturday I saw the picture of a general who stands in conquest after having defeated a mighty army...with broken bones and numerous scars on his body. A general who would strip his sleeves and show his scars and say "These wounds I had on that fateful day of battle..." with his head held high and shoulders square in pride...Or the once blind man who rushes about in excitement telling everyone and anyone he meets that he had been blind but Christ has made him well...The battle is massive but my glory is assured...Like David said -As waters breakthrough, God has broken through my enemies by my hand. He is Baal Perazim...The Lord of The Breakthrough!!!! "Do not be afraid little flock, it is your Father's pleasure to give you the kingdom." Luke 12:32 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Nyaumwe Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Thank God for Pain! Good morning Vibers! This Saturday is the Cross cars!!! Please try your very best to come and celebrate together! Thank you for coming out to serve on Saturday! I realised later that night that it was probably the last time I will wear yellow as part of vibe L But doesn't mean I won't still have a yellow patch on my heart somewhere! You guys have been a lasting impression, I won't forget anytime soon! The word on Saturday was .... You know what, there are no words to describe it actually. But first, I would like to thank Chief Nkosi for the offering message. For those of you who were not there, she shared her testimony on how she has had to endure some hard pressing experiences such as not having ZESA power for three weeks because she couldn't pay her bill. And then her water also went. And this wasn't a long time ago, just last month. But in the midst of all of that, God remained faithful and has opened a door for her to travel! In November she went to South Africa for the first time in her life! And now, PRAISE GOD, she has been sent to Brazil!!!! So our prayers are with Chief Nkosie during her time away! Chief Tsungi also made her first appearance on stage in a yellow VIBE t-shirt! Well done Chief! You did great! We are blessed to have you in our tribe! Now onto the word... maiwe zvangu! This was a rhema word for me, coz I had been feeling like there were so many things that I should have accomplished by now that I hadn't especially career wise. And it's really been a painful process. Beginning with my degree, I took four years to complete my degree instead of three. The honors programme is a one year programme, I didn't pass the first year, this year was my second attempt and I didn't pass one out of four papers so I now have to re-write all four papers again next year.. that is three years attempting a one year programme. I felt the pain this year. But Pst Lync's message really strengthened and empowered me to keep trying. When I pass next year 2010, I can't begin to imagine the intensity of joy I will feel, and when I finally qualify as a Chartered Accountant in 2011, I know then I will really appreciate the process it's taken to get there. For the benefit of guys who didn't make it I will just extract a snippet from notes I have borrowed from a friend who emailed me: The title of the message was: Thank you God for pain- Ps Lyncolin I know it sounds a little confusing; at least I was confused at the beginning, asking myself where we were going with this but I'm sure after you hear the contents of the sermon you will indeed start to thank God for pain. He shared on these three verses first and referred to them also during his sermon. Psalm30:5 "...weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning" 1Peter5:10 "but may the God of grace who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you" Genesis3:16 "...in pain you shall bring forth children" He said I pray by the end of this service you will start appreciating pain and not dreading it He spoke on how he went to a funeral and he didn't know what to say to console a friend in mourning, which to him is what triggered the questions, asking God, Why painful things happen to good people? He then sort out God as he went recluse, fasted, prayed and retreated for a while that is when he came across a book by a gentleman by the name Philip Yancy(Hope it's the right spelling), the book was dedicated to those who had lost loved ones in the twin tower tragedy. The book is entitled Where is God when it hurts? The thing that is most confusing for those in mourning is the contradictory advice that is given by people God said it is good after creating everything but we always believe that He made a mistake when he created PAIN. But it has its own mechanism and purpose in our lives. 1. He gave the example of the knee jerk that the sharp pain causes your knee to jerk thus preventing further pain. Therefore the absence of pain could lead to greater pain (confusing? Stick with me it gets foggy b4it gets clearer) The first thing that caught me that he shared on was on how lepers are often disfigured, so we believe the disease causes this but in fact the disease just kills all your pain sensors and leaves you numb to pain, therefore you don't feel it when your limbs are in danger, so accidents happen the limbs come off. Therefore pain can act as an indicator of imminent danger preventing you from hurting yourself and conserving you whole 2. Second thing was in order for you to fully enjoy success, pain must come first. Because often pain is a prerequisite for joy (e.g. birth, fasting, toiling in a field etc). As is said in the verse "after a while". Because the most intense of pain makes you appreciate joy when it comes. He said (and this got me thinking) Now I know why I don't have some things in my life yet, for I have yet to fully appreciate them. As Joseph went through all forms of pain before the joy came. So pain is before ecstasy. The point of fasting is to kill your flesh and it is painful but the proceeds are bountiful. 3. Pain brings people together, as many as haven't seen each other will come together to console one that has lost a loved one. Pastor warned us that we should avoid living incubated lives where we then become numb to pain therefore we don't feel for others, walking around with no compassion and no empathy, with messed up attitudes but when we have experienced similar situations it is easy to relate and feel for others He said stop backing away from situations and opportunities because of the fear of pain because the greatest treasures in life are found after pain. Therefore we all have things that we have been hoping for so pain is an indication that we are on our way to the victory so let us not, back away or be dismayed but let us not wait for the breakthrough to rejoice but in the pain praise God Another friend of mine sent me an email that was short yet so profound and relevant. I want to share with you all and encourage you: "Nothing about our faith makes us pain-proof. It does hurt, it does make us cry. And we must dry our eyes and continue with the work until our time is done. May God teach you to remain true to Him and to the call on your life as you persist in this season. He who promised is faithful and able to do what He said he will do. Your faith is working for you. So guys be encouraged J. Meditate on the scriptures and the word from Sunday. God's grace is more than enough for us and He will perfect, establish, strengthen and settle us. Love & blessings! 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