As far as the theory behind the mandrake club goes I don't mind supporting the distribution that I use. I would have very happily kept paying $40.00 (or more) for boxed RH linux distributions the rest of my computing days. I had LONG ago hoped that RH would set up something where you could have paid for downloads of the ISOs without having to purchase a boxed set. I suggested this time and time again to several people inside RH. I didn't necessarily want the boxed set, but I wanted to support the company that was producing the software (as well as keeping it up to date). I would have happily paid $40.00 into a RH "tip jar" kind of thing and d/l'ed the ISO for each new version. Alas, it was not to be. I wonder how many other users of RH software would have done the same thing.

I'm going to give Mandrake a try and if the software is as good as everyone says it is I'll be happily forking over my $60.00 a year to keep supporting it.

Greg

On Thursday, Oct 23, 2003, at 16:56 US/Eastern, Tanner Lovelace wrote:

Rock Roskam wrote:
I am new to the current Mandrake and I have some questions about it. I am not willing to join their club as an individual but definitely would contribute to having a trilug account.
1. This club mantra is very annoying. In order to access the main forums you have to be a member. So far I have been going to mandrakeusers.org for answers. Is there a better repository for getting answers?

Why is it annoying? There has to be *some* benefits for membership and the club forums are part of that. You can choose to join or not. There are plenty of other websites you can also check. Look at the top of any mandrake page and you'll see something like:

MandrakeSoft MandrakeStore MandrakeClub MandrakeExpert MandrakeBizCases
MandrakeSecure MandrakePartner

Click on one of those links to go to the appropriate site. Only the club
one requires membership.


2. The urpmi seems to be tied into the club mantra. Are there sources to go to without club status. I have found PLF sources but want to be certain I have found all the sources I need.

While the club does provide it's own urpmi sources, there is *nothing*
about urpmi that ties it to the club. Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/
to fill out all the sources you could ever want (it will give you the
*exact* commands you need to do so).


3. Will cooker sources corrupt my urpmi for 9.2? I wanted tuxpaint for my kids RH9 via apt-get or yum could not handle this. But a cooker source gave it up to install and run.

As with any *experimental* distribution you should absolutely know what
you're doing before attempting to run it. Basically, if you would feel
comfortable running Debian Unstable, then feel free to try out cooker.
If not, then don't. Installing packages from Cooker onto a stable release
may or may not work. What you can often do, though, is take the src.rpm
file and rebuild it on your stable workstation. Google for links on how
to do that or see the slides from the presentation I did for trilug.


4. Why does maelstrom under windows try to access the firewall?

Are you sure you're on the right list? ;-)


I feel a little lost and listless with Red Hats change. I like the look of Mandrake but the pressure for the club may be too much. I am not ready for a monthly fee for linux. I do not feel ready for the challenge of Gentoo or Debian against my hardware.

Who says you have to have a monthly fee? Install mandrake, try the url I gave above for urpmi sources and be happy. You absolutely don't have to be a member of the club to use mandrake very effectively.

Cheers,
Tanner
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