Muhammed might make the choice to use non-free software, but it's still his choice. He is still FREE to choose that. That is what I thought this was about, freedom. He is installing a program like Adobe Flash, because while Gnash/Lightspark are available, they may not fit his needs. I know because I had to make this decision for work as well where my students are required by the school to learn Adobe Flash because the professionals in the industry they are going into use Adobe Flash. So I do my best to accommodate their needs while also addressing alternative possibilities. NO, I will NOT just give up my job because I can't force the school to use free software. If you know of any schools teaching Gnash/Lightspark, please point them out to me. We all have different circumstances and angles that we are coming at this problem from.

In Richard Stallman's biography "Free as In Freedom", it mentions how the initial build up of the GNU Operating System sometimes happened on non-free systems, until they could create an adequate alternative. I am sorry but Gnash/Lightspark are not always adequate alternatives, especially when you get into the scripting route.

Also consider that many people here are running non-free BIOS. While the core-boot project exists, there are still problems and limitations with it. Should I suggest people not use BIOS because it non-free? How will then will they boot up Trisquel? Or tell them that I will not deal with them unless they are using coreboot or a free alternative to BIOS? When many of us are claiming that we take a hard stance on only using non-free software or no software at all, does that mean you are using a free BIOS? Same thing for any of us here using smartphones, Google, non-free javascripts in a browser, and a whole host of other software.

Thank you roboq6 for offering a helping hand OFF SITE. You are HELPING the person, even if they choose to use non-free software. Because in the end you are respecting their choice even if you do not agree with it, and you understand their situation is not yours. Not everyone poses the technical knowledge, ability, skill, or circumstance to be able to make the switch to free software cold turkey. Treating people as if they have to make this choice or they will be shunned, is wrong. Help them the best way you can.

muhammed if you need the help with solving your flash issue please contact me off site as well, ron "at" ronbravo dot com is my email.

I want to help you because you are here posting and asking for help. At bear minimum I know you are concerned with Free software principals and are looking for ways to stay in that "pure" free software only realm, which is NOT always a possibility. I want you to stay and have a positive experience. So I will help you however I can.


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