> No one who shares illegaly takes *away* money from the copyright holders.
The amount of money in their pocket stays the same if a friend gives you a jamendo.de song or a copy from lady gaga. Taking away money from the copyright holders would be theft, that's true, but I can't imagine how this should be even possible.

Well, maybe you don't know it, but in a legal context, preventing someone from making money that they would make under normal circumstances is considered "lost gains" (liberal translation) and makes you owe the person all the money that person lost (plus expenses!). So, yeah, my argument is actually right. There are many things you don't know, but don't worry oh "sensible voice", I can teach them to you.

> Well, spoken from your mouth, this sounds like a compliment! I really thought you just had a emotional knock-out last time we had the piracy discussion, but perhaps you calmed down. Now I see you have a massive choleric problem; I just hope for you it's because you're very young (I don't know) since this could improve.
You're behaving like you were fifteen years old, sorry.
But feel free to insult me as you wish. This harms you, not me, since everyone can see the deficit of your character. And your welcome doing harm to yourself as many times you like. For me, it's very funny entertainment.

Oh, so that is your problem! You think that by calling you what you are, makes me lose the reason and the right on this argument? Well, I will teach you something (again): a hammer is a hammer. If you were to call it a flower, and I used it to hit you in the head, guess what, it would STILL BE A HAMMER! The hammer doesn't just magically turn into a flower because I hit you, and you are not right on something just because someone actually used the proper word to address you!

> And you are supporting the idea that we should respect every shit put in front of our nose.

No, I'm supporting the idea that we should fight to have better laws, not just disobey the ones we don't like. You on the other hand accept that companies keep using the same system, as long as you can have your pirate copy in the hard drive.

> Perhaps authors want me in a few years to write a letter to them asking for permission everytime I read the copy of my book. Well, we really should obey or just say: bye bye books!

Yes, if the author decides that, you should obey! That is the whole point, you should obey the decisions (free decision) that people make, or else you making their freedom be worth NOTHING! If you don't like that, you can always go and write a book and sell it without that limitation, license it under a license that says "you can read as much as you want".

> And to your argument that sharing illegaly harms CC projects:
I don't think listening to vivaldi will magically stop a musician far away producing his own stuff. I don't see any logical connection.

If you are listening to a pirated music and some friend comes to visit you, he will say "I really like that music" and you will proceed to send him the file by email, thus making that person a slave of piracy as much as you are. BUT if the friend comes to visit you and you are listening to a CC licensed song, maybe you are using an online service like librefm who knows, and he says that he likes the music, you can say "it's from this website that supports CC" and you email him the link, which will make him more aware of the freedom that artist and consumers both have in CC and PD. Thus, making him FREE!
Got it now???


I fail to understand how someone can argument that piracy serves any other purpose than fulfilling our own luxuries and desires, with total disregard for my fellow neighboor. And I will always fail, because it makes no sense. We should discard piracy as a way of life. I did and I am very happy =D

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