On 2017-05-27 10:07, [email protected] wrote:


Let's try this again from email:

<Buy the books Fahrenheit 451 and 1984 Read them (if not already).
Then propose the 50$ or 100$ to read them and make you a small resume of it.

My adult children read both of these as teens because they wanted to, not because they were mandatory or because I paid them. Also Brave New World and Animal Farm.

I only recently discovered Dave Grossman, but John has read him as an adult. Griselda-Beatriz has read War is a Racket as a semi-adult (she got her high school diploma from Beach High http://beachhigh.education/ early and started college at fifteen).

As jules_verne pointed out downthread:

< But did it work properly? Did they really learned about the message you was trying to give?

Yea, I'm embarrassed, but truth is going to help GNUbahn better than pretty words and theories.

John is a die-hard windoze user. I'm guessing it is because of gaming and his career and school responsibilities and just the way he is wired.

Griselda-Beatriz is wannabe open sores. She dual boots windoze and Ubuntu or else talks about how much she wants to use Ubuntu and how unfair it is that she "can't". She received a very nice scholarship to a great grad school this year, but since the school didn't offer a degree in her preferred major, she did some exploring and unschooly John Holt inspired stuff that included taking IT classes and ultimately led her somewhere else.

She suggested that I read Jaron Lanier and pretty much ignored my suggestion that she read rms.

Both of them have settled for free tech support from mommy when they couldn't afford paid professional customer service. They were fairly convincing while they were inwardly rolling their eyes and wishing I would shut up so they could turn on the TV and pick the lint out of their belly buttons.

So were my parents. After all the work I put into their computers and their education, I recently received and email from my dad suggesting that I write my own encryption program because data mining for advertising purposes is such big business that he "wouldn't trust any encryption program unless it's offered on Ubuntu or some other Linux (sic) platform."

Family dynamics come into play, of course. My late sister was "the smart one" and I was the cute little Shirley Temple lookalike with the lovely blonde curls that turned brown when I was eight and grey when I was 38 but the script had already been written by then and I could only play the part in which I had been cast.

Parenthood is hard, GNUbahn. I commend you for doing the best you can and for having the courage to put this out there and ask for help. I put a lot of weight on what the teens and young adults have said on this thread because they are the real experts.

A wise person once asked if it is harder to be the parent of a child or the child of a parent. Both have been challenging for my illustrious self. I gain wisdom from the teens and young adults in both aspects of my personal life.

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