You have been making many points that are insightful and worth talking about in 
themselves but that don't support a clear argument. This is perhaps a pitfall 
of the point-by-point forum response style that I also tend toward. However, 
the timing and frequency with which you temporarily reframe the discussion with 
interesting but tangential points comes across as evasive, which is perhaps why 
Magic Banana is not patient to follow them all. I think it will help if for now 
you can stick to topics that support your most important arguments.

If I follow correctly, your main point is that the four freedoms and community 
control of software are insufficient to be 100% certain that software is 
privacy-respecting. Magic Banana and I have each acknowledged this, but have 
asked if you know of a better solution apart from avoiding software (including 
Linux, GNU, and Chromium) altogether. Your responses have touched on a wide 
array of issues, but none that address this question.

Perhaps your secondary argument is that the design of the Internet is flawed 
because it requires compromises between security, privacy, and convenience. I 
agree that an internet without such physical limitaions would be objectively 
better, but in the absence of a concrete suggestion for one, wishing that the 
Internet behaved like radio or cherry picking definitions of 'freedom' that are 
ambiguous as to whether it is the absence of imposed or natural limitations is 
unproductive. Ealier in this thread, you mentioned that you have some ideas 
about this.

> Hence my idea about a new network.

Sharing these might get the conversation back on track.

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