On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Thomas Lübking <[email protected]> wrote: > Am 16.08.2012, 16:39 Uhr, schrieb R Ceunt <[email protected]>: > > > >> Therefore Trojita should not only allow me to open a >> meeting request (attachment) with my calendar software, but Trojita >> should also allow my calendar software to send meeting >> requests/updates. However, I can imagine that this would then be >> implemented in the OS and not directly in Trojita. > > > To send mails you'll invoke sendmail or an smtp client. > That _can_ be GUI process but does not have to be (supposing the message is > auto-generated) > > The calender SW also could implement a minimal smtp client.
I use this type of functionality in Outlook at work. I have no idea what would be the best implementation since I'm not a developer. I was merely wondering if it's 'in the pipeline'. >> I'm not exactly sure how this works 'under the hood', but I believe >> there is a difference between sending from two different 'accounts' >> and sending on someone's behalf (in which case you receive a message >> from [email protected] on behalf of [email protected]). Perhaps >> this is exactly what you are talking about. > > > The sender filed in mails is in general "random" > I could easily send you a mail from [email protected] (it's not a commercial > thing ;-) yes, I tried something like that once with php and remember it was quite easy (even for a non-developer) > However, eg. many (most, all?) freemail smtp servers will deny to send any > mail where the sender field does not match the account (it's by 99.99% > chance spam) > So in order to write funny things into that field you need a relaxed SMTP > server (which is accepted by the receivers ISP) or transport the messages > via IMAP directly to the receiver account. > > Unrelated to that you can send from absolutely any account - given you know > the credentials. > > So if the assistant shall write a message from HIS account on his bosses > behalf like "[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]", the > SMTP server must be ok with at least "first valid mail address matches > account" and not care about the second address in the sender field. > In case he would send via his bosses account with that sender, the server > must even be ok with "contains matching address" > I see, I understand that this "on behalf of thing might actually not be good practice. Actually this particular example is not my personal priority. Giving someone access to for instance my inbox is far more important. This is what I need to do if I for instance go on holiday. My colleague can then make sure that any urgent messages are taken care of. But there are many different things one can do with delegates in for instance Outlook (read incoming messages, reply, put into (sub)folders etc. > >> No, I don't think that moving messages into other mailboxes is what I >> mean. I am talking about saving the 'message file' into a folder on >> the filesystem or into a document management system (DMS). > > Atm you can save parts and the header on their own (rightclick the message > resp. the listview entry and say "save") Good to hear that some of this functionality is already there. > -> What you want is likely a FETCH <uid> RFC822 (all message parts and > headers in one text file with a certain format) Yes, I think so. I need to store all info about the e-mail in one file, including the headers, everything, so I would be able to open it for instance 5 years later with any e-mail client that can open that format (so preferably a widespread format that is likely to stay around for a long time) and read it, index it, print it (and in very rare cases perhaps even have a look at the headers). Actually this is probably the most important 'feature request' (it was more an info request) from my list. In my business I really have to keep accurate and complete records, so being able to file messages into a file is quite essential. It would be interesting if it could be accomplished in an efficient manner. For instance if I could first perform a search and subsequently select all or most of the e-mails in that search and file them at the same time. In my current job, they are also removed from my inbox/sent items, but that's because my company's DMS is integrated with the e-mail client. I don't know how to accomplish that. Maybe by adding a 'has been filed' tag or moving it into a specific folder? Well I know you have lots of higher priorities to work on and I wish you best of luck with the 0.5 release!!! > > > Cheers, > Thomas Regards, Rowan
