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Hi Mike Yes your link to the knowledgesuccess.com site points to a version of the expanded tone scale. here is another that is just specifically Geoffery Filberts expanded tone scale http://freezone-america.org/excal/excal07a.html You are describing moving your viewpoint up the tone scale to the causal band. From this viewpoint you are not involved in games conditions or emotional or efforting reactions to things going on. I am only able to obtain that state with much meditation and can't hold it for long. You are already experiencing "Nirvana" now you could work on making happen at will. Keep on TROMing. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Mickel To: Pete McLaughlin ; The Resolution of Mind list Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [TROM1] what else after Trom? Hi Pete Thanks for info, I did a search for the expanded tone scale but I must have got the COS one. I found this one here: http://knowledgesuccess.com/wiki4/uploads/toneScales.html is that the one. However, for my level of understanding now what I see in the COS tone scale: Serenity of Beingness Postulates Games Action. clears up a few things for me. I don't want to go too much into this but I have this thing that happens to me and I have had the exact same experience again and again since I first became aware in this body and I will explain it this way. I am going along in a normal manner into the physical universe games, agreements, mind stuff and all that, I think you know what I mean, when something rather odd happens, it's not odd really. It's like a curtain lifts, all the mind stuff drops away, everything, all there is life itself, there are no mind questions, there is nowhere to go other than where I am now. It is a perfect synchronicity with everything in the P.U. it is completely effortless, it's almost like the body moves by itself. It is a crystal, clear clarity, there is no such thing as death, a question such as do I reincarnate is a really stupid question because I am here always, do you see what I am trying to say, these words I use to try and describe it are really completely useless, they point to something my mind cannot explain properly. It's wonderful, all fear, worry, all that mind stuff does not exist, Who am I really, I am a big guy pretending to be a little guy. I will just add this, that remark at the end of my last message about playing a game with drugs, sex and rock and roll was just one of those stupid remarks I sometimes make, I do not drink alcohol or use street drugs and I have never used those sort of mind altering drugs that so many use today. When I write up a particular experience I have had that is the truth as I see it, to mislead someone when describing what we call spiritual experiences is a major overt, don't ask me why, it's something built in to me, to lie or make something up may lead someone else who is into spiritual understanding onto the wrong path, to lie is the the biggest overt I could commit. Best Mike
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