************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Hi Pete Thanks for ack, funny I never think about Nirvanah, I don't know, I don't seem to have a goal formulated in my mind that I would want to reach such a state, maybe it's hidden, most of the time I don't even know why I do this spiritual work I do, I just seemed to have been born this way. :)
An interesting thing I have began to become very aware of lately is best described by "Let go and let God", if someone had said that to me 6 months or a year ago I would have dismissed it as rubbish but there dose seem to me to be two levels a person can work on. The first I would say is that you have to study, look up your words if you don't know what they mean, choose your spiritual path. Get in there, roll your sleeves up, effort, bad times, good times, times when nothing happens for a long time despite all your efforts and a bloody awful depression can set in, I been through it all. The use of specific processes, scales and all the rest of the concepts and ideas which are needed to break through the occlusions in the mind, so there is nothing wrong in any of that as I see it. Then there is another way I have come to see and I can give you an example that happened this afternoon. I was relaxing this afternoon just visualising some spiritual ideas I was interested in, things like past lives, earlier universes, energy bodies, astral plane stuff when suddenly out of the blue a mental picture popped up in my mind. This was a picture of a time when I was about 13 or 14 and I was watching someone who was expressing themselves in a free and easy manner while I felt squashed, compressed and limited, "Closed in space" was the thought in my mind. then a few more items popped up, an hour later something else, a picture I saw in a book when I was aged about 7, this picture depicted vast space after a journey though a long dark tunnel. Later still another picture, each time I was able to view and understand but the point is I wasn't doing anything, instead of actively searching, trying to find the reason for this that or the other it was like a letting go and these things pop up by themselves. It's hard to describe but I am sure for some people it may sound like apathy just letting go but there it is. I also believe that many of the newer energy type systems are working like this, you start with an intention, place one or two fingers on the body and let go, let the universal intelligence take over. Anyway, I have explained best I can, that there does appear to be a level where this phenomenon occurrs, where the little I or ego gets out of the way thus allowing another energy force or intelligence to do the healing. So, that is a new item that popped up in my mind, to do with how I lost my creative space and got lost in the maze of the mind stuff. I do read the Ghost Danse articles from time to time, I may have another look in a while, my favourite is http://freezoneearth.org/ghostdanse/waking.html Why? because I have experienced it while the body is asleep, when I do a meditation I can spread my attention out for miles. See Ya Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]> To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [TROM1] anyone on this list using trom ? > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hi Mike > Very nice wins!! > > I like your description of the beginnings of Nirvanah: > > "At moment I find there is nothing bothering me that I need to get in > there > to deal with, I find many moments in the day when I can just be and watch > life unfold before me." > > Have you read the "Ghost Danses"? You will find it very interesting. > > Sincerely > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]on > Behalf Of Mickel > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:07 AM > To: The Resolution of Mind list > Subject: Re: [TROM1] anyone on this list using trom ? > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hi > I have not written for many months, the reason is that I have very little > to > write about concerning wins, items from the reactive mind and so on. > > I was working at Level 2 on TROM and even from the very first session I > did > I became aware that this timetrack I see in my mind is actually an > illusion. > That picture or item that I believed was responsible for how I am now in > someway is in actual fact a picture created by myself Now! > > After a short time of using the process most of the mind stuff that was > bothering me fell away because there was this knowing that these items I > could view in my mind could only have an effect on me as long as I held > the > consideration that they were something caused by someone else or something > else. > > Responsibility is a major factor here, blaming someone, being a victim of > whatever it was in the past all cause charge to be generated in present > time. > > There was a shift, Karma, cause and effect seemed to disappear instead > whatever item came to view I could just see it in present time the past > had > nothing to do with it. I still use TROM Level 2 or 3 to deal with > anything > should it be triggered or pop up in my mind. > > At moment I find there is nothing bothering me that I need to get in there > to deal with, I find many moments in the day when I can just be and watch > life unfold before me. > An awful anxiety which ran from my stomach up into my chest area which I > suffered from for a lifetime has gone. > I am sleeping much better, I always suffered from insomnia, organisation > and > completing jobs or projects much better. > > I very rarely need to attack or ridge at people anymore for what they may > say or do. > I can read the newspapers with very little charge (harmful energy) arising > and if it does I can quickly let that go. > > I really do enjoy many times now where I am just at peace with myself, so > I > am enjoying that, I don't worry about anything else in the reactive mind > at > the moment, if there is more to deal with then when the time is right I > shall see it. > > Listening to Lester Levenson was a great help to me, and Wayne Dyer where > he > describes quite accurately what happens when a person gets this shift from > being the effect of things in the mind to a state of peacefulness can be > quite helpful. > > TROM gave me the clue, that which I was looking for regarding time as we > experience it in the mind. > Best > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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