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Dear Leo
Thanks, I understand what you are saying, that is something I needed 
clarifying, today I start studying TROM again and this time my goal is to 
acquire the knowledge till I just Know, and I don't have to think about it.

I see exactly what you are saying about the different ways of using know, I 
have always been aware for instance that there is a level where you just 
Know, that's it, isn't anymore to it, to then try and use the mind and turn 
that knowingness into words I have always found impossible, I just know..
Best
Mike

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From: "Leo Swart" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 72, Issue 14


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> It seems to me that the word "know" has different meanings and the meaning
> used in TROM is very often a very particular one. Here it means "getting 
> the
> other guy to accept my PD postulate".
>
> One could also know something by being able to access data about it in 
> one's
> mind.
>
> Or one could know something by pervading it fully, adopting its (or his or
> her) viewpoint and sharing what it knows already.
>
> And there are other methods of knowing too.
>
> In TROM when one "knows" something one has, to a degree, accepted the 
> other
> guy's PD postulate. It is therefore an Effect position. Knowing by 
> pervading
> is a Cause position, and it is an act where one makes no attempt at all to
> get the other guy to accept any data. One is simply adopting, for a moment
> or two, the other's position and viewpoint and knowing what it knows; or
> even things about it that it does not knowingly know.
>
> These are all things to play with. Also one should not flip meanings in 
> mid
> process.
>
> Leo
>
>
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