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Slim,



But from what you told me,   you tried TROM  after you left the cos back
in the 90s and could not get it to work, or could not understand it, then
you went on with life and work  and meanwhile you had the book put on
tapes and you listened to them  40 times over 10 years while driving on
your job.  Then you retired  last spring  and got into using it.

Then it apparently  came easy  for you.  Because you had more than 10
years to process the process in your mind. And I have to assume that you 
tried it many times during that 10 yrs to no real success.


Then only after ten yrs of churning it over in your mind at work, then
retiring, then only  when you could devote full time to it,  you got it to
work.



And you also HAVE  to understand something about clearing and scientology 
(or maybe there is some equivalent), to understand TROM. It is not a
matter if scn is right or wrong, or works or not,   there is some right to
it and in any case right or wrong, you still need to understand some scn
to understand TROM. The more the better.  Judith, a cl  7 or 8 or
something,  even said that it would be easier to do TROM if someone had
completed the bridge. And she needed the assistance of an auditor  through
some rough spots.






So you saying  what you say in your letter below is practically impossible
for at least the majority,...... I am saying at least,   as there maybe
exceptions.  But anyone with a mind good enough to figure it out that
easy, does not need TROM.


Who has the time or wants to make the time ( 10 yrs ) and read it or
listen to it 40 times?



If YOU  could not do TROM  as you write,  then how  can you expect others
to do it?

Unless you imply that someone has to do something similar to what you did
and take 10 or more years to read and understand it and then do it......

Then you are right.  But not practical.  Any idea or advice is only as 
good as it works.

David







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> The best way to understand TROM is to first read the games manual,
> then use the excersises in the practical sections
>
> First hand experience is always best
>
> Next , if you just want to know without using it , check with someone
> who has used all the levels and uses TROM all the time
>
> But even then , it's still 2nd hand and extreme caution should be used
>
> What ever you do , let any other tech , advice from me or anyone else
> go to the wayside.
> You're just asking for problems
>
> Just use the games manual and your own body and mind
> It's the simplest way out
>
> Dianetics Scientology and all the other stuff in the universe will
> only add cloudness to clear waters
>
> Scientology and Dianetics claim that in order for a past incident to
> lose it's command power it must be AS-ISed.
>
> This is not true It merely needs to be timebroken
>
> Again, the best way to know TROM is to use it and know it for yourself
> Not what others including me tell you about it
>
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