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I hooked up with the salt lake city mission in 1981 82 , did the success 
through communication course and left my body , not unlike the way Dennis told 
us about is his tape .

I took the book one co auditor course , purification rundown and a few other 
div six courses and had many hours of dianetic and objective auditing as well 
as auditing .

I moved to the San Francisco Bay area in 1983 and joined staff in 84 . But this 
time is was a class four org . I began training in The TTC full time to become 
a class six auditor at night every night and every weekend ,  and worked a day 
job installing alarm systems to make ends meet.

I did the DCSI and Sunshine Rundown as well as staff status 2 , tons of work 
clearing and WC courses , interiorisation rundown. emeter course , examiners 
hat cousrse and held the post of examiner.

Sent some letters to and from LRH which were very superficial but interesting 
none the less.

I realized that there were church members who did not have my best interests at 
heart nor the best interests for life ,  the contract was breached by the 
holders other than i and i took a walk right out the front door  

I found TROM in 1997 and read the GM a few times . Dabbled with some of the 
excersises including level five but did not fully understand the purpose of RI. 
It's not that it didn't work , it did work and it worked very well .  I made a 
decision to put it off until a latter date , but i continued to study and apply 
life goals and some non life goals to my life and others around me .
There is/are only life and purposes in this universe and i decided to learn 
about all the ways of life both good and bad

To be continued.   



On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:55 AM, [email protected] wrote:

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> 
> Slim,
> 
> 
> 
> But from what you told me,   you tried TROM  after you left the cos back
> in the 90s and could not get it to work, or could not understand it, then
> you went on with life and work  and meanwhile you had the book put on
> tapes and you listened to them  40 times over 10 years while driving on
> your job.  Then you retired  last spring  and got into using it.
> 
> Then it apparently  came easy  for you.  Because you had more than 10
> years to process the process in your mind. And I have to assume that you 
> tried it many times during that 10 yrs to no real success.
> 
> 
> Then only after ten yrs of churning it over in your mind at work, then
> retiring, then only  when you could devote full time to it,  you got it to
> work.
> 
> 
> 
> And you also HAVE  to understand something about clearing and scientology 
> (or maybe there is some equivalent), to understand TROM. It is not a
> matter if scn is right or wrong, or works or not,   there is some right to
> it and in any case right or wrong, you still need to understand some scn
> to understand TROM. The more the better.  Judith, a cl  7 or 8 or
> something,  even said that it would be easier to do TROM if someone had
> completed the bridge. And she needed the assistance of an auditor  through
> some rough spots.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So you saying  what you say in your letter below is practically impossible
> for at least the majority,...... I am saying at least,   as there maybe
> exceptions.  But anyone with a mind good enough to figure it out that
> easy, does not need TROM.
> 
> 
> Who has the time or wants to make the time ( 10 yrs ) and read it or
> listen to it 40 times?
> 
> 
> 
> If YOU  could not do TROM  as you write,  then how  can you expect others
> to do it?
> 
> Unless you imply that someone has to do something similar to what you did
> and take 10 or more years to read and understand it and then do it......
> 
> Then you are right.  But not practical.  Any idea or advice is only as 
> good as it works.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>> The best way to understand TROM is to first read the games manual,
>> then use the excersises in the practical sections
>> 
>> First hand experience is always best
>> 
>> Next , if you just want to know without using it , check with someone
>> who has used all the levels and uses TROM all the time
>> 
>> But even then , it's still 2nd hand and extreme caution should be used
>> 
>> What ever you do , let any other tech , advice from me or anyone else
>> go to the wayside.
>> You're just asking for problems
>> 
>> Just use the games manual and your own body and mind
>> It's the simplest way out
>> 
>> Dianetics Scientology and all the other stuff in the universe will
>> only add cloudness to clear waters
>> 
>> Scientology and Dianetics claim that in order for a past incident to
>> lose it's command power it must be AS-ISed.
>> 
>> This is not true It merely needs to be timebroken
>> 
>> Again, the best way to know TROM is to use it and know it for yourself
>> Not what others including me tell you about it
>> 
>> 
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