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Hey slim: you’re an asshole: you can’t duplicate. All you enjoy is invalidating others by dramatizing a service fac to show everyone you know more about Trom and life than anybody else does which makes everybody wrong and you right. Thanks for nothing. You ought to go back and get level four of the lower grades of Scientology before you start skipping around the universe like a Messiah in heat.
From: Slim Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 7:27 PM To: The Resolution of Mind list Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Level five is not meant as a theory to understand. Its meant as an excersize to use to gain understanding about life. Its not an explanation for life or of life. Its a tool that's used to restimulate the mind so it can be time broken out of existence . I understood that before i ever used it . The mind is stacked in a way that is best taken apart by using the 16 levels of level five . I sit around all day with my mind out of existence . I can tell it's still there, but it's not being restimulated by the environment like it use to. Only the creation of raw postulates will restimulate it for time breaking and thats level five. If you don't know something , anything, your simply not "up" to knowing. LRH had an IQ of 200 and he never made it to level five . He was to the point of running GPM's but used the wrong opposers. Dennis changed the opposers and then made the chart after trial and errors. TROM is the saint hill briefing course made with the correct opposers. LRH would have made it but died before he did . Dennis took what he knew from auditing and the briefing course , did some troubleshooting so to speak and got it right . Its not that TROM is flawed, or was created irresponsibly. Its a way out of the trap and so many have become so entrapped , they tend to find excuses for not being able to free themselves from the trap . If you know of a better way , make it known to us . The fact is that they don't want to be free from the trap and blame others as the " reason" it won't work for them . Its like a long term prisoner with 3 meals and a cot to sleep on . He's become content with his life of entrapment and would just rather stay right where he is . Anyone can find an infinite amount of reasons why trom wont work or how its flawed or not easy to understand. You don't need to understand how or why it works for it to work . Just go up the levels and restudy the games manual as you do so . When i was on level three , level four became obvious and while on four level five started to run. All you're doing is telling everyone you are not aware enough at your present state of being to understand trom and you haven't even used it yet. Dennis knew he found the truth with TROM once he noticed no one wanted to use it . Get it ? If you don't , its simply because you're not " up " to getting it yet . Martin was being honest when he said he hadn't made it to nirvana yet and didn't want to make it there yet. He's not ready to go . When he is he will. You're not the first one who's come along and blamed dennis for one thing or another . He's created a pond of fresh water. If you don't want to drink it, don't blame him. TROM works very well for me and i never did the primary run down . If I'm the only soul that trom works well for, then that can mean only one thing. It was created for only me to use . So be it . : ) On Oct 31, 2010, at 1:45 PM, "John Boice" <[email protected]> wrote: ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Slim. Iâm having trouble totally duplicating the âpostulate failure cycle chart and itâs meaning and applicability.â Could you please give me your run down on it or point out where I should look in Trom to resolve it. Iâve read the theory and listened to the 1994 tape but it seems that Dennis has a tendency to take for granted peoples ability to duplicate and understand. I wouldnât ask but wanting to get into level 5, I seemed to have no other choice and so from the suggestion of DHS himself I thought Iâd forget about saving face and ask. Thanks JB From: Slim Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:04 PM To: The Resolution of Mind list Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Just use what ever means you have and creativity to get it known. Don't worry about any backlash from anyone group or anything . It's a life goal and you'll have all life by your side . This is not about our present lifetime Our bodies are completly expendible but you'll understand this better once you begin to operate without the need for your body as a spiritual being with a body. Just get going with the levels and you'll know what to do and how to do it as you come up the line in awareness. Rediscover your purpose for being in this universe. Getting yourself through the levels is what you need and what we all need you to do Then you can focus on others well being On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:21 AM, "John Boice" <[email protected]> wrote: ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ I know that DHS didnâÂÂt have much affinity for capitalism but do you happen to know what he thought or considered or have any of your own as to the dissemination of Trom. Trom seems to be quietly out in the cold somewhere (outside of the internet of course) as far as any organized effort to get it known and used. DHS said once that âÂÂNow, because of Trom the planet CAN be clearedâ since there is no longer any unresolvable solo auditing barriers. I realize the problems that might ensue such as the church of Scientology calling trommers Squirrels and so forth but my 4th dynamic is somewhat âÂÂsqueamishâ about what I see as almost a âÂÂsecrecyâ about it plus the fact that some emails I get have quite a bit of Q&A and misinformation, trying to compare it to mysticism, and even criticism going on which is disappointing given the magnificent opportunities it presents, if one were to be honest, as if they were trying to find all the reasons for not doing it, as though the possibility that it can now be done misses the withhold that they donâÂÂt really want it done. The Freezone mentions it but in relation to other ambiguous material that reflects that they donâÂÂt know what it is either! I expect itâÂÂs due to some of these conflicting postulates theyâÂÂd as-is if they would âÂÂjustâ do it, plus the continuing fallacy that the church has it all covered. Again, the lack of dissemination might be involved here. Without proper data, many peopleâÂÂs bank just runs amuck in A=A=A=A=A. IâÂÂm also thinking about the many people like myself who have been constantly demeaned by the church and have no hope to continue as was my plight that I was having to deal with before Trom. I even slugged it out with Ken Oggers (The Pilot) material! Therefore itâÂÂs natural for me to wonder about this since we all need Trom, and underneath the tremendous vicissitudes, want it. Like I say, itâÂÂs not going to stop me and IâÂÂm not going to lose any sleep over it, but I do consider it a valid ethical consideration which concerns me. It has always been a bit rough for me to look into the eyes of the bewildered knowing why, but also knowing it doesnâÂÂt help them a damn bit! I remember years ago when I was scuffling with some ethics shit, some OT friend came by and I could see in his eye that he knew the resolution but he also knew that that wouldnâÂÂt help me any. Anyway, IâÂÂd better close before my propensity for writing that came about from my acquisition of the PRD moves into a second tome. Please continue to keep me posted, and of course, happy Tromming and happy living. What a thrill it is to be a part of all this. From: Slim Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:44 PM To: The Resolution of Mind list Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, trom is thee shit . love it . All I will say now is you'll be seeing life much different than you do now , Not just while on level five but levels 2 , 3 and four too. Get ready for the " ride " of you life . Its an e ticket to a reality you are not able to comprehend at the moment. Give it everything you've got and use it every day . It won't take you long to get to level five . Enjoy the trip back through time , be strong and no matter what , don't stop keep going . You're gonna be going through many walls of fire along the way back through time . You'll discover things you just had no clue or idea existed as well as things that still exist in present time . You'll not only viewing the past but will regain your ability to see the future as well and communicate with others from a distance without the use of your body . You'll have the ability to see and hear and know things without your body and realize that a body is just a life form that occludes perceptions but yet still serves a purpose. You'll also become very aware of being alive as a spiritual being all the time , always having lived and always will live in one for or another. You'll know who you are and why you are here and where LRH came from as well as where DHS came from and what he's doing now. You'll simply have the ability to know what ever it is you want to know. And know its true and the difference between truth and bullshit. Clear theta clear is a pretty good definition. Its a goal i had from back in the early eighties and can easily say I've completed that goal using TROM and surpassed all expectations in ways that are not easily put into words. It doesn't take much effort to get there . Just keep at it on a daily basis for an hour a day or so . You'll begin to notice very nice cognitions right off the start from level two onwards . So huge , some very slight but all very frequent . Ive had thousands of new realizations . All free , all solo, all when and where i choose to have them , no bullshit, no problems just solo auditing all the time with some very basic commands and all the past scenes i will every need . OT is a great way to describe the state too. Theres no lag time between the creation of a thought and its verbalization . It just goes from creation directly to verbalization with no time in between. The creation of your words in the verbal form are simultaneously created with the thoughts and intensions to say the words. Thinking doesn't exist , just looking. Www.YouTube.com/users/slim42ndstreet On Oct 30, 2010, at 4:40 PM, "John Boice" <[email protected]> wrote: ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ I would like to present a summary of what Trom is generally all about in me mind at the moment which will of course change as I continue, but the fundamental natural abilities of a spiritual being lingers on. Trom stands for âÃÂÃÂThe Resolution of Mind.âÃÂàWe all have minds and each one of them can be resolved and life can be what it was intended to be via the abilities of spiritual beings who having understood and resolved the mental aberrations they themselves have unknowingly created; as it should be, since having created their quirks and frustrations they can certainly get rid of them! The reason I decided to do this is to try and create a better reality and inspire so as to incite a broader reality along the dynamics so that more and more people can understand what Trom is so that it can be used in the resolution of the mind. If I stand in error, I apologize but know that I will stand corrected by some if not all the best meaning Trommers who know what trom is. The church of Scientology will of course do exactly what has been done to them which is to invalidate workable techniques which bring about the resolution of the mind as has been done by Dennis Stephens and his predecessor L. Ron Hubbard back in 1950. ItâÃÂÃÂs unfortunate that some Scientologists have become so thick skulled as to logic and an honest intention to allow another being to attain eternal life, he turns from any improved routes through further investigation and breakthroughs. LRH said âÃÂÃÂFor Gods sake, get busy and build a better bridge!âÃÂàWell, that exactly what Dennis has done, only the church of Scientology wonâÃÂÃÂt acknowledge him. The rather large difference in DHS and LRH as Dennis has explained is that he researched and found what LRH had missed: a discovered reason why and an inevitable way to solo audit without having to deal with the previous âÃÂÃÂunsolvableâÃÂàanaten and restim problems. But Scientologists have to not-is this discovery because it will deflate their opinion or viewpoint of their Messiah. I too loved LRH but not on an irrational basis. One must ask himself what heâÃÂÃÂs doing with this data of the mind and spirit. This was an enormous contribution and advantage especially to those of us who have been seemingly stopped in our tracks by the necessity to have, and pay through the nose because of, separate therapists which also gave us the possibility of having to deal with squirrels who could take advantage of such an opportunity in making wealth off the unsuspecting PC by CSing continuous auditing that served no useful purpose outside of being continuous which would eventually make the church rich, but without ethical service, a certain disaster to any applied religious philosophy. How can one check the checker, if the checker is beyond reproach? But there are some of us that desire workability and the resultant freedom attained. If thereâÃÂÃÂs one thing the bank abhors, itâÃÂÃÂs timebreaking because timebreaking brings about the demise of the bank and itâÃÂÃÂs apparent influence by exposing a non-existent past. There is no past, so the problem lies in resolving this lie. This discovery was named âÃÂÃÂtimebreakingâÃÂàbecause it breaks the time mechanism inherent in how the bank came to have command over us. Time is an illusion. All things are in the now, so when the past is brought up and compared to the present or now, this automaticity, having been done intentionally by the person timebreaking by comparing the past to the present shows that there is no past and therefore the lie of the past has been exposed which then timebreaks any incident and the past is therefore gradiently terminated and no longer has the capacity to influence anybody. And all this is done at the self-determinism of the person without any overbearing anaten or restim that would put him or her out of commission, so that we now can be cause over our minds and life. Alleluia! ThatâÃÂÃÂs Trom! This has all been theoretically well delineated by Dennis and as far as IâÃÂÃÂve been able to detect, there is no loop holes in his origination! In other words: it works because you can see how it works! ItâÃÂÃÂs extremely encouraging to know that what is said or predicted has every chance of coming about and becoming evident which makes me tickled pink. For 44 years IâÃÂÃÂve lost hope, for there was no certainty; and now itâÃÂÃÂs back! Alleluia!! if one will attack Trom honestly and persistently he will be encouraged to go on, on the basis of so far so good since that which has been predicted is occurring, no matter the considerations of time since there isnâÃÂÃÂt any time! And so donâÃÂÃÂt get hung up on it. These past scenes, vanish. Time is a lie. The lie that these pictures or incidents are in the past is revealed by comparing them to pt and the reactive mechanism is broken through the gradient action of timebreaking and vanishes. Level one is to see if the individual is capable of confronting his past and can tolerate and develop the action of timebreaking. He is told what he must do to develop this âÃÂÃÂlostâÃÂàability so that he can then jump into L2 and get busy erasing his past for having any further ability to influence his life. Sounds like a real âÃÂÃÂClearâÃÂàto me. Dennis discovered a way for a person to confront his past and terminate it without having to worry about succumbing in the process which might definitely be the case without âÃÂÃÂtimebreaking , capability of. ItâÃÂÃÂs then a question of, he, himself being responsible for his own mind and his own beingness, timebreaking enough of the mind to release enough beingness or potential to confront the deep âÃÂÃÂvicissitudesâÃÂàof the core of compulsive games conditions which is the mind itself having been created by game playing which boils down to the aberrative use and playing of the game of which the anatomy consists of conflicting postulates. Freedom results, which means heâÃÂÃÂs free to live life the way he now knows how, or not. Once the four basic postulates of life is straightened out, and running complementary or not with the bullshit of conflicting postulates erased, a being can get back to living and maybe even see eventually what this total freedom postulate is all about. I sincerely hope this furthers the case of Trom being at the present the only method I know of that resolves the mind and life and therefore consider I have the right to proclaim this due to itâÃÂÃÂs profound significance of a better bridge having been built; one that can be walked without regard to anyone assigning security checks or âÃÂÃÂjustifiedâÃÂàdeclares! To my continued respect and gratitude for Dennis Stephens and L. Ron Hubbard who perhaps are hanging out somewhere on some comfortable cloud in some quiet galaxy conjuring up what their next randomity is going to be wishing us all âÃÂÃÂHappy Tromming!? 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