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HI David There is always room for improvement and i welcome anyone who works to make TROM better or easier to understand. You are correct that a number of people have difficulty understanding and applying TROM. Few people have the skill, perserverence etc. needed to confront the mind. This was the reason that LRH felt a seperate auditor was required to get anywhere with the mind.
i have the opposite problem. i do not make a good PC as i get into a games condition with the auditor and with authorities. i work best with solo processes and i make good progress with TROM. Judith Methven made great progress with TROM by having her auditor run the processes on her. the wirte up of her success is in the archieve. Who wants to take a shot at writting a beginners guide to TROM? Sincerely, Pete --- On Fri, 4/1/11, David M. Pelly <[email protected]> wrote: From: David M. Pelly <[email protected]> Subject: [TROM1] Judith Anderson To: "TROM List" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 10:17 AM ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ I and another individual have communicated with Judith Anderson. The essence of her comm was that she is very disappointed and frustrated with TROM and wants nothing more to do with it. It is not copyrighted. The same goes for many other old timers who have tried TROM ( and also knew Dennis) . Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:49:05 -0500 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 81, Issue 1 ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Yes, the materials need to be updated will all of Dennis Stephens technology preserved, but all of the outdated referenced of where to get your copy of TROM removed. When I first found TROM I was very dissapointed that all the distributors of TROM no longer offered the materials. I even tried to get hold of Judith Anderson who supposedly has the copyrights to the material to see if we could get it updated but she never answered. It would be nice to get it all in order on a graident scale with a glossary and pictures of the procedures. I think I will have to do the project myself put it into a pdf form and offer it as a free ebook. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:00 AM, wrote: > Send Trom mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: needed TROM materials without 'Scientologese' (Michel Matil) > 2. Trom and SCN (Slim .) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:24:08 -0700 > From: Michel Matil > Subject: Re: [TROM1] needed TROM materials without 'Scientologese' > To: The Resolution of Mind list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Hi, > It is a very good idea to put the material out in more easy to digest > steps, > but I would not want any association with the church. Times have changed. > If you want the public to be interested give them the content. Make your > own > package. I intent to do that. It's time for it. > Michel > > > > > > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:52:53 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TROM1] needed TROM materials without 'Scientologese' > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > > Hi Pete, Mar. 31/'11 > > *INTRODUCTORY TROM MATERIALS NEEDED* > ** > I think it is so, so important to have introductory TROM materials with > full > LRH study tech. No Scientologese (unless defined with numbered footnotes > on > the page concerned), correct increase of gradient of understanding in > sequence with enough knowledge to get started, and some pictures to give > some mass to the concepts. The Church of $cientology has these > introductory > course booklets and materials, and I think we can also. TROM is so > basically simple, it a bloody shame to throw it away as far as new greenies > are concerned because of the out study tech throughout the materials, > particularly on nomenclature. I had someone ask me about TROM, and I > balked > for 3 days in a stupor on how to present the materials without blowing the > newbie out of the water from the get-go. If the levels could be mocked up > like the introductory booklets in the C of $, with an overview, and then > each level having a tailor made thin booklet, with pictures, that would be > so outstanding !! The word Scientology would have to be introduced very > tactfully also, as many people have become allergic to that word thanks to > wrong goals running in the 1960's per what Dennis says, and also because of > the new suppressive management at the C of $ since 1984. The understanding > would be that the person, after having enjoyed levels 1 to 2, and perhaps > 3, > would then be ready to read the whole original manual from Dennis, with > Scientology glossary footnotes numbered on each page. > > I'm very open to comments on this, > Aarre Peltomaa > [email protected] > (647) 202-7267 Yes, the materials need to be updated will all of Dennis Stephens technology preserved, but all of the outdated referenced of where to get your copy of TROM removed. � When I first found TROM I was very dissapointed that all the distributors of TROM no longer offered the materials. I even tried to get hold of Judith Anderson who supposedly has the copyrights to the material to see if we could get it updated but she never answered. � It would be nice to get it all in order on a graident scale with a glossary and pictures of the procedures. I think I will have to do the project myself put it into a pdf form and offer it as a free ebook. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Send Trom mailing list submissions to � � � �[email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit � � � �http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to � � � �[email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at � � � �[email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." Today's Topics: � 1. Re: needed TROM materials without 'Scientologese' (Michel Matil) � 2. Trom and SCN (Slim .) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:24:08 -0700 From: Michel Matil <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TROM1] needed TROM materials without 'Scientologese' To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, It is a very good idea to put the material out in more easy to digest steps, but I would not want any association with the church. Times have changed. If you want the public to be interested give them the content. Make your own package. I intent to do that. It's time for it. Michel Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:52:53 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [TROM1] needed TROM materials without 'Scientologese' ************* The following message is relayed to you by �[email protected] ************ Hi Pete, � � � � � � � �Mar. 31/'11 � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � *INTRODUCTORY TROM MATERIALS NEEDED* ** I think it is so, so important to have introductory TROM materials with full LRH study tech. �No Scientologese (unless defined with numbered footnotes on the page concerned), �correct increase of gradient of understanding in sequence with enough knowledge to get started, and some pictures to give some mass to the concepts. �The Church of $cientology has these introductory course booklets and materials, and I think we can also. �TROM is so basically simple, it a bloody shame to throw it away as far as new greenies are concerned because of the out study tech throughout the materials, particularly on nomenclature. �I had someone ask me about TROM, and I balked for 3 days in a stupor on how to present the materials without blowing the newbie out of the water from the get-go. �If the levels could be mocked up like the introductory booklets in the C of $, with an overview, and then each level having a tailor made thin booklet, with pictures, that would be so outstanding !! � The word Scientology would have to be introduced very tactfully also, as many people have become allergic to that word thanks to wrong goals running in the 1960's per what Dennis says, and also because of the new suppressive management at the C of $ since 1984. �The understanding would be that the person, after having enjoyed levels 1 to 2, and perhaps 3, would then be ready to read the whole original manual from Dennis, with Scientology glossary footnotes numbered on each page. 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