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You see, the problem with any tech is available people who know how to apply it and pass it on.
I could throw the kabala onto someone's head and say: "there you are, it is all you need to attain whatever you want. Spiritual or physical." In fact those who understand it can invent whatever device they wish with it. It is done by some Jews, I heard. Won't happen, simple as that. A living mentor is needed. Or even more simple of an example. Give a man an instruction how to drive a car. Then give him the keys for the cars and wish him good luck. Besides much luck he will need heaps of guardian angels. As a result of missing available masters we see people trying to reformulate the tech so it can be understood. That is how we lose what once worked. It gets lost with the people who know how to apply it. Xriz Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Philippe Trounev Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2011 17:44 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 87, Issue 1 Lets be honest here. I doubt LHR tech really requires an auditor to progress. You can run it all with a meter and a bit of creativity on your side (recording commands and a tape recorder and playing them artenatively etc) The way LHR designed the auditor is very mechanical and since its very mechanical you could be replicated using digital technology without much of a loss. I honestly think that Auditing on its own is a way to scam people of money since really there is a handful of high tone auditors and the rest a low tone people than somehow passed those grades and seriously believe in this stuff. This is just my two cents. Best Wishes. P.T. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 8:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Send Trom mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." Today's Topics: 1. what is wrong about LRH tech? (Alexander Graf) 2. Re: what is wrong about LRH tech? (Pete McLaughlin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 01:19:47 +0200 From: Alexander Graf <[email protected]> Subject: [TROM1] what is wrong about LRH tech? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <CANaPLt=38pi9krucoj3iw9ybjf6poracajxwux_mt4ryypw...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Trommers, just a question thats on my mind: what is wrong about LRH-tech? not the application by the church, just the tech. and, are there any other germans on this list besides leo? yours alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111002/48d6316d/attachm ent-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 17:00:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TROM1] what is wrong about LRH tech? To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Alex ? In my limited experience with LRH tech which amounts to auditing up to life repair (a minor level below the grades) and a little experience with metered coaduiting, I found that the tech is workable and does get results. ? My problem with the LRH approach is that it requires a separate auditor to make it work. I get into games conditions with the auditor so make poor progress with LRH tech. Theoretically the auditor and c/s should have handled this but the reality was i made life difficult for them because of my compulsive games playing. To me TROM is excellent because it is entirely up to me what progress I make and when I work at timebreaking or not.? I can spend all day at it or take a week off.? I still play games with the mind by not persisting as much as I could? but I make up for that by continuing to study and work at TROM so that I will eventually reach my goals. What is wrong with LRH tech is a big subject.? LRH gave some 3000 lectures and wrote books and issued thousands of policy letters detailing how the tech was to be applied over a span of 30 years.? Just what part of the tech do you want to address? Sincerely Pete >________________________________ >From: Alexander Graf <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 4:19 PM >Subject: [TROM1] what is wrong about LRH tech? > >************* >The following message is relayed to you by? [email protected] >************ > > >Hi Trommers, > >just a question thats on my mind: what is wrong about LRH-tech? not the application by the church, just the tech. > >and, are there any other germans on this list besides leo? > >yours >alex > >_______________________________________________ >Trom mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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