************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ The fine points of view! But there are postulates forcing to have a MEST- location. These postulates have a high degree of persistence and compulsion. The spiritual being recreates perceptions of past scenes and it synchronize with a body. The body produce reacts and E-meter register it . When we realize that it doesn't concern this body in the present time, the E-meter don't react any more. The body serves as the device for an estimation of degree of synchronization and duplication of past sensations in the present time. The synchronization is a package of postulates referring to it. All it lies in a package of goals "To know" ( MEST, bodies, perceptions through a body, etc.).
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Re: interesting fun piece on EXTERIOR (Aarre Peltomaa) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:07:12 -0400 > From: Aarre Peltomaa <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] interesting fun piece on EXTERIOR > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <canrdadtqxm5v2m1vnrluz5fpqx0n5ec32doejwp4tt9rmd2...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Very interesting, Paul ! Oct. 14/'11 Aarre > > May I also venture to say that the thetan isn't in the physical universe. > He doesn't have a location, as he is not composed of matter, > energy, space, and time. He creates those things. He is a static. He puts > a viewpoint, mind, body, etc. into the physical universe, but none of those > things are 'him'. It's approximately analogous to looking via a camera > that is located in another room (your viewpoint) to view things, but 'you' > aren't there in the other room. You put up viewpoints whereever you please, > maybe more than one at a time. I love the beautiful simplicity of this > concept. > > Thanks, Aarre Peltomaa > [email protected] > (647) 202-2767 > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Paul Tipon <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> I too wanted to clarify the difference of using MEST eyes vs. Theta >> perception and knowingness. >> >> Let?s first look at the MEST looking. MEST is emanating waves and >> reflecting particles and waves. These actions are picked up by the >> eye mechanism and create a signal that is transmitted to the brain. >> MEST seeing also has a perception of time which is motion. Even in >> still objects there is a moment to moment picture with which is >> classified as, time is changing. >> >> Theta looking in the case of TimeBreaking, is Theta looking at >> facsimiles. Facsimiles can have motion or no motion. They certainly >> are not emanating particles or waves and are not seen by or through >> one?s eyes. They may or may not have motion. Whether they have >> motion in them or not there is no time passing that they reflect in >> their motion other than, it took time for a facsimile action to >> occur. If there is a time element taken from the motion, it will >> have to be in the context of, what was the time for or of a sequence >> then. Because the Thetan has manufactured these facsimiles when they >> occurred and is manufacturing them now, there may be a lot of missing >> elements but the Thetan only has to put them there for them to be >> there. They are not there on their own. Another is they will not be >> solid or what one can call real. They have no reality other than to >> the Thetan for they are not MEST and do not fall under the definition >> of reality. There is where the Thetan can have his reality really >> mixed up. >> >> The definition of reality here is that which is agreed upon in the >> MEST Universe by two or more Thetans. Interesting huh. So if there >> is not a perfect agreement then MEST is not as solid as one may have >> thought, huh. Do you see how it is possible for one to start to go >> off the rails? At least it can be said that there is not perfect >> reality because no two MEST viewpoints can occupy the same spot. So >> you say Theta viewpoints can! Well that?s true but you still may not >> have perfect agreement. For now you are having Theta viewpoints and >> obviously not MEST eyeball viewpoints. Is MEST going even further >> from solid into liquid? Careful you don?t get to the vapor stage. >> Things are not as solid as one thought they were and the agreement, >> the reality is starting to get a little thin and narrow too, huh! >> >> Theta can also look at MEST and in doing so, (not using eyeballs) >> would it not be the same as looking at facsimiles? >> >> So one needs to know this. This gives understanding to what is >> happening in TimeBreaking. Which truly is the more ?real?, the more >> ?solid?. Careful now, that you don?t have an emergency and have to >> call someone into the room to get reality back. Just joking. I must >> say that all depends on how you yourself want to judge what is real >> for you. >> >> So there you have it briefly. There are two types of looking. Both >> done differently. Now the question becomes, who or what is doing >> both of those lookings? I leave that for you do discover and know. >> I simply went briefly into the Tech of looking. There are several >> distinct ways of doing that. This should give you fluidity over both >> lookings and the right to choose which is more solid and real. But >> realize that one does not always have to outrank the other. Yes, the >> ranking can be switched back and forth too. That is entirely up to >> you. This kinda puts reality in several possible places. >> >> You might say you now have a new freedom. Use it wisely, use it for >> fun. Also see that a reality of others cannot be enforced or >> changed. Don?t bother trying to do so, they have to do it. I >> believe you will also find this as the four items in Dennis? Ethics >> section towards the end. Now you know why it is there. It?s >> actually there to help you, not police you. You will never succeed >> though try you may to accomplish any of the four. >> >> Oh, last but not least ?. Can you now answer whether you are >> exterior or not? Were you ever really interior??? (I hope you don?t >> come up with the answer that you are solid and stuck in a body. 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