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I wish Dennis was still around so I could talk to him. There is one issue I
have with TROM that remains unresolved for me. Don't get me wrong - I do love
these materials and I can get it to work for me and I get the gains out of it,
all is OK on that score. But, still I have this nagging feeling about it.
You see a really thorough end penomena in running an incident or "blowing it"
or whatever you want to call it, let's say Dealing with a past incident, would
include: (a) full
erasure of the charge locked up by the incident, (b) full perception and
realization of
all of the significances contained in and resulting from the incident, (c) the
ability to fully pervade the actual considered time and space in which the
incident occurred, and
(d) a full recovery of all of the beingness, activity level and reach that the
person had prior to the incident.
TROM achieves (a) pretty well. But what about the rest? I don't find these
here.
Your comments and advice would be welcome.
Leon
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1. Answer to "Exclusion" Lecture question (Leo Faulhaber)
Hi Colleen
Some physisists might try a whole life long to prove the existence of a
merely speculative sub atomic particle.
Or one might try to prove that something works that in actual fact doesn't.
Best wishes
Leo Faulhaber
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> In this tape lecture Dennis says that beings either run around trying to
> know something that has not been brought into existence in this universe to
> be known, or they run around trying to "not-is".
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> I'm very very familiar with examples of "not-is", and I find I am lacking
> some solid examples of the first part of Dennis' statement. Would someone
> please help me out, thank you.
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> Where is my castle ? That`s how i should live. Still have not found it..
> Damn.
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> In this tape lecture Dennis says that beings either run around trying to
> know something that has not been brought into existence in this universe to
> be known, or they run around trying to "not-is".
>
> I'm very very familiar with examples of "not-is", and I find I am lacking
> some solid examples of the first part of Dennis' statement. Would someone
> please help me out, thank you.
>
> colleen
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> Now that i begin thinking it astonishes me that is says: trying to know.
> Because I actually do not lift a finger in order to DO something about it.
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> Well, that is what case is, isn`t it ;)
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> Li
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> Where is my castle ? That`s how i should live. Still have not found it.
> Damn.
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>
> In this tape lecture Dennis says that beings either run around trying to
> know something that has not been brought into existence in this universe to
> be known, or they run around trying to "not-is".
>
> I'm very very familiar with examples of "not-is", and I find I am lacking
> some solid examples of the first part of Dennis' statement. Would someone
> please help me out, thank you.
>
> colleen
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> Could not do much with TROM so far. But this one indicates for me.
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> How do I pick that up with TROM and process it ?
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> Thanks
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> Li
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> Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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> Now that i begin thinking it astonishes me that is says: trying to know.
> Because I actually do not lift a finger in order to DO something about it.
>
> Well, that is what case is, isn`t it ;)
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> Li
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> Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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> Where is my castle ? That`s how i should live. Still have not found it.
> Damn.
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> LI
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> Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Im
> Auftrag von Colleen Peltomaa
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. November 2011 17:23
> An: [email protected]
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> In this tape lecture Dennis says that beings either run around trying to
> know something that has not been brought into existence in this universe to
> be known, or they run around trying to "not-is".
>
> I'm very very familiar with examples of "not-is", and I find I am lacking
> some solid examples of the first part of Dennis' statement. Would someone
> please help me out, thank you.
>
> colleen
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Damn good example, thank you. My statement of what Dennis said was a
rough paraphrase taken from the "Exclusion" taped lecture.
Just punch "your" item in and keep eyes open and hold the "now" space
(or some other space/time) up to whatever the mind hands over, and it
generally flows very quickly. Mass gets vanished and one restores it
with their own present time creations (RI).
Let me know how that works for you.
colleen
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I see now why the habit is the same.
You see, when I visit old castles I usually know where everything is,
without having been there this lifetime.
I did not lift a finger back then and that stays with me now. Although I am
in a completely different situation.
Without castles.....
Well, at least I can laugh realizing how an old habit sticked with me.
Li
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Damn good example, thank you. My statement of what Dennis said was a
rough paraphrase taken from the "Exclusion" taped lecture.
Just punch "your" item in and keep eyes open and hold the "now" space
(or some other space/time) up to whatever the mind hands over, and it
generally flows very quickly. Mass gets vanished and one restores it
with their own present time creations (RI).
Let me know how that works for you.
colleen
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