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4. Complimentary Postulates (Leo Faulhaber)
Dear Pete Excellent analysis and answer. It seems that there are a couple of games that need to be won in order to survive. So one could make the conclusion that survival is a game and as such not necessarily reasonable or rational ... There are some ramifications with this. Leo Faulhaber 2011/12/21 <[email protected]> > Send Trom mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 16 (Leo Faulhaber) > 2. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 16 (Pete McLaughlin) > 3. Complimentary Postulates (Pete McLaughlin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:18:23 +0100 > From: Leo Faulhaber <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 16 > Message-ID: > <CAKmUWn_VwLHOajrfDTkEJQn-v=hxaR1SKLVuRsY=hrka97n...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: olivia_c18 (Ant Phillips) > > 2. Virus Infection (Pete McLaughlin) > > 3. laura.watts (Pete McLaughlin) > > 4. Re: laura.watts (Flemming Funch) > > 5. Re: Virus Infection (Happy Harry) > > 6. Re: Virus Infection (Leo Faulhaber) > > > > Hello everybody > > What would be the complementary postulate to such a virus infection? > > Leo Faulhaber > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:48:02 +0100 > > From: Ant Phillips <[email protected]> > > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [TROM1] olivia_c18 > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111220/3e4e5752/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:39:47 -0800 (PST) > > From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> > > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TROM1] Virus Infection > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > HI All > > I am working to clean the virus off my computer.? I am sorry if these > > emails infected any of your computers.? > > > > I used Spybot Search and Destroy to root out the Trojan that infected my > > machine. > > > > Sincerely > > Pete > > > > P.S. Thanks Ant for bring the infection to my attention > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Ant Phillips <[email protected]> > > >To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:48 AM > > >Subject: Re: [TROM1] olivia_c18 > > > > > >************* > > >The following message is relayed to you by? [email protected] > > >************ > > > > > > > > >At 03:04 2011-12-20,Pete McLaughlin's computerwrote: > > > > > > > > >Good evening!link > > deleted, my service provider will not receive mails with that link in, > > regarding it a spam. > > > > > > > > >??????????? Tue, > > 20 Dec 2011 3:04:54 > > >Pete's computer is infected. > > > > > >When I clicked on the link in that message, my anti-virus programme > > stepped in and warned me that it was a malicious programme. > > > > > >I hope you have up to date anti virus programme working. > > > > > >His computer already sent such a message to two list which I > > administer. > > > > > >All best wishes, > > >Ant > > > > > >IVy ListAdmin: Ant Phillips > > >[email protected] > > >IVy Home Page: http://www.ivymag.org/ > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Trom mailing list > > >[email protected] > > >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111220/627d6aa8/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:51:07 -0800 (PST) > > From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TROM1] laura.watts > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > Salute! > > http://exclusivasribadavia.com/home/bfgjndx.php?arjlistenid=14 > > > > > > > > Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:51:06 > > _________________________________ > > " Now, which of these do you think came to his mother right?Why,--George, > > said he, certainly." (c) FLOYD v?rem?des > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:02:37 +0100 > > From: Flemming Funch <[email protected]> > > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [TROM1] laura.watts > > Message-ID: > > <CAPOH_SVPd3FOUhTRniw+az1B-WOU1mk00Ve8tvo3= > [email protected] > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Pete, > > > > Your account has obviously been hacked. Change your password! > > > > And, everybody else, don't click on those links, particularly if you're > > using Windows. > > > > - Flemming > > > > 2011/12/20 Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> > > > > > ************* > > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > > ************ > > > > > > Salute! > > > http://exclusivasribadavia.com/home/bfgjndx.php?arjlistenid=14 > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:51:06 > > > _________________________________ > > > " Now, which of these do you think came to his mother > right?Why,--George, > > > said he, certainly." (c) FLOYD v?rem?des > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Trom mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111220/c52a642c/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:28:36 -0800 > > From: Happy Harry <[email protected]> > > To: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]>, The Resolution > > of Mind list <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Virus Infection > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > > Hi Pete, > > > > these things can happen. Apart from Spybot, you may also want > > to use Ad-Aware (similar to Spybot S&D) to scan your system with as well. > > Whenever I do a second sweep with Ad-Aware some additional infections are > > often found that Spybot missed. So having both programs is ideal. > > Ad-Aware is free, and you can download it here: > > > > > http://download.cnet.com/Ad-Aware-Free-Internet-Security/3000-8022_4-10045910.html > > > > Good luck. > > > > Harry > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:39:47 -0800 (PST) > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [TROM1] Virus Infection > > > > > > ************* > > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > > ************ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Trom mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds... > > Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social > networks. > > TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for > FREE > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > End of Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 16 > > ************************************ > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111221/b1611992/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:16:24 -0800 (PST) > From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 16 > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Leo > > An excellent question. > On kicking it around a little my cognitions was about why I got the > problem in the first place.? I have several projects I am working on that > are taking a lot of time to complete and are getting wearisome(leg 4). > Those games being no fun I was ready for a game that i could do quickly and > succeed at(new junior universe and leg 1).? > > > Along comes a hack of my email account and I know precisely what to do > about this new problem.? It is very important and must get fixed quickly so > as not to inconvenience others. So I am justified in dropping all those > boring projects to handle the hack. > > Hack handled, I feel good about that quick win.? Now back to the real work. > > Sincerely > Pete > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Leo Faulhaber <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:18 AM > >Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 16 > > > >************* > >The following message is relayed to you by? [email protected] > >************ > > > > > >Today's Topics: > >> > >>? 1. Re: olivia_c18 (Ant Phillips) > >>? 2. Virus Infection (Pete McLaughlin) > >>? 3. laura.watts (Pete McLaughlin) > >>? 4. Re: laura.watts (Flemming Funch) > >>? 5. Re: Virus Infection (Happy Harry) > >>? 6. Re: Virus Infection (Leo Faulhaber) > >> > > > >Hello everybody > > > >What would be the complementary postulate to such a virus infection? > > > >Leo Faulhaber > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111221/03ee2917/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:52:24 -0800 (PST) > From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > Subject: [TROM1] Complimentary Postulates > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > OK Leo > Now to answer your question. > > As Dennis says it is possible to end any game by adopting a complimentary > postulate. > > "While the game is voluntary, the being can always end it by adopting > complementary postulates. E.g. He stops fighting the wall and adopts a > ?know? > postulate regarding its ?be known? postulate. End of game. " > > > However, Dennis warns that complimentary postulates are not always > possible or the best solution: > > "But what of the being in a compulsive games condition? Ah, he must go on > playing. He cannot ever end the game. He?s in it for keeps. He must go on, > and > on, and on... Just like time goes on, and on and on in the universe. Now > do you > see what I mean when I say that in the absence of games, space and time > cease > to exist? The whole universe is kept chugging along through time and > endless > change by life engaged in a compulsive games condition. A being achieves > Nirvana when he can adopt complementary postulates > with the whole universe. Then, and only then, can he leave the universe and > go in search of pastures new. Until that point is reached the being is > always > to some degree trapped in the universe" > > and: > "There may be a relief for some by adopting the philosophy of the world?s > great spiritual leaders. E.g. Christ?s message: ?Love thy neighbor as > thyself?. > But for the many they are simply unable to use these routes to get out of > the > trap that life for them has become. They are far too enmeshed in the trap > to be > able to get out of the trap by changing their mode of life and thought. > Their > compulsive thoughts govern their behavior; their compulsive behavior > governs > their thoughts. They are trapped forever in the universe. " > > > From this you see that I can use the complementary postulate if I let the > hacker have my email account to use as he wills.? As long as I have things > in this universe that I want to keep, hold and protect I am "compulsively" > playing the game or at least knowingly and willingly playing the game so > must take action to protect what is mine. > > > > Therefor, the better solution for the hacked email account was to change > the password on the account to block access by the hacker and run the > Trojan elimination software on my home computer to prevent the hacker from > getting my new password off my computer.? I opposed his must know /must be > known on my password and email account with a must not know/must not be > known from me. > > The Best solution would have been to keep creating the games I was working > on so they did not become boring or put them on hold or end them while I > created some interesting diversion that was not potentially harmful to > others to keep life interesting. I failed to do that. > > > Sincerely > > Pete > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Leo Faulhaber <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:18 AM > >Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 16 > > > >************* > >The following message is relayed to you by? [email protected] > >************ > > > > > >Today's Topics: > >> > >>? 1. Re: olivia_c18 (Ant Phillips) > >>? 2. Virus Infection (Pete McLaughlin) > >>? 3. laura.watts (Pete McLaughlin) > >>? 4. Re: laura.watts (Flemming Funch) > >>? 5. Re: Virus Infection (Happy Harry) > >>? 6. Re: Virus Infection (Leo Faulhaber) > >> > > > >Hello everybody > > > >What would be the complementary postulate to such a virus infection? > > > >Leo Faulhaber > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111221/2bdd7622/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > End of Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 17 > ************************************ >
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