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Thank you Jurgen
  I like your translation better than the online automatic one i got.

Sincerely
Pete

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On Apr 19, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Jurgen Kluft <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> 
> My German is still a bit rusty but i will try and translate as well as i can 
> since i found the automatic translation is poor.
> 
> ------------------- begin of translation ------------------------
> For many years I have been a believer of Scientology. Everything according to 
> Policy, avoiding Squirels, LRH is the Source, Cos Management is always right, 
> everyone else is always not right etc..
> 
> Note: i cannot find a translation for 'Schicsall', the closest i good come up 
> with was 'accident' or 'coincidence' 
> (http://www.woxikon.com/wort/schicksal.php)
> Last week due to an incident related to Debie Cook, Marty Rathburn and Tom 
> Rinders i have experienced a coincidence and since a week i am reading 
> messages from people with similar experiences, old-timer stories, etc..
> 
> Because of these message i have decided to leave the CoS and to join a 
> Freezone group.
> 
> I have limited finance for the CoS Bridge and i do not want to go on the 
> Bridge since i have experienced that the CoS LRH Tech has been modified since 
> Miscavige was appointed. I have distanced myself from the CoS.
> 
> I am now searching for a road/way/method where i as a normal human being with 
> a normal income, in Kroatie, can grow spiritually.
> 
> I like what i have read so far in TROM:
> ''Thus, the technology of the mind must be usable on 
> either a co-audit basis (people helping each other free 
> themselves of charge/stress) or on a do-it-yourself 
> basis...''
> 
> Because of this i must give this Techology a try.
> 
> Sincerely
> Aleksandar
> ------------------- end of translation ------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:05:05 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [TROM1] Fw: Welcome to TROM
> 
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> 
> translation of the german text I truely years long genuine Scientology a ' ' 
> glaeubige' '. All on Policy, haende away of Sqiereln, LRH is SOURCE, CoS 
> Managment always is in right, in always is in injustice etc. I experienced 
> last week by a coincidence over Debie Cook, Marty Rathburn and Tom Rinders 
> Schicsall in CoS and read since one week I reports of people with aenlichen 
> experiences, old timer stories etc. By these reports I have myself to 
> withdraw opened from the CoS and step a Freezone group. I do not have money 
> for CoS Bridge and I do not want this Bridge now to make, there I 
> experiencing have that the CoS LRH Tech changed after Miscaviges 
> instructions. I abgentrent myself from CoS. I look for a way at which I, as 
> normal humans with normal incomes (no lawyer or Artzt) in Croatia spirituel 
> to grow can. It gefaelt me which I in TROM read: ' ' Thus, the technology OF 
> the mind must fuel element usable on either A CO audit basis (people helping 
> each more other free themselves OF load/stress) or on A DO-it-yourself basis 
> ' ' From this reasons I moechte this technology try out Many Grueese 
> Aleksandar ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: aleksandar hanzic >To: Pete 
> McLaughlin >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:21 AM >Subject: Re: Welcome to 
> TROM > > >Hi Peter! >My English is very bad in writing, i will write on 
> German, I hope therse is somebody that can translate this for you: > > >Ich 
> wahr Jahre lang ein echter Scientology ''glaeubige''. Alles on Policy, haende 
> weg von Sqiereln, LRH ist Source, CoS Managment ist imer in Recht, in bin 
> immer im Unrecht etc... > > >Ich habe letzte Woche durch einen Zufall ueber 
> Debie Cook, Marty Rathburn und Tom Rinders Schicsall in CoS erfahren und seit 
> eine Woche ich lese Berichte von Leuten mit aenlichen Erfahrungen, Oldtimer 
> geschichten usw... > > >Durch diese Berichte ich habe mich Erschlossen aus 
> der CoS auszutreten und einer Freezone Gruppe beizutreten. > > >Ich habe kein 
> Geld fuer CoS Bridge und ich will diesen Bridge jetzt nicht machen, da ich 
> Erfahren habe das die CoS LRH Tech veraendert nach Miscaviges Anweisungen. 
> Ich habe mich von CoS abgentrent.� > > >Ich suche nach einen Weg an dem �ich, 
> als ein normaler Mensch mit normalen Einkommen �(kein Anwalt oder Artzt) in 
> Kroatien spirituel �wachsen kann. > > >Es gefaelt mir was ich in TROM gelesen 
> habe: >''Thus, the technology of the mind must be usable on� >either a 
> co-audit basis (people helping each other free� >themselves of charge/stress) 
> or on a do-it-yourself� >basis...'' > > >Aus diesem Gruende ich moechte diese 
> Technologie ausprobieren >Viele Grueese >Aleksandar > > >Dana 19. travnja 
> 2012. 15:48 Pete McLaughlin je napisao/la: > >Hi and welcome to the TROM 
> mailing list. >> >>You start out on moderate status on this list, which means 
> i will check your emails before releasing them to the list. �You can get off 
> the moderate status by writing a short introductory email on what brought you 
> to TROM. >> >>There are several resources available to you here. The TROM 
> list page where you created your account has a link to the archive of the 
> past several years of emails. �You will find many interesting emails there. 
> >> >>There are a number of very capable beings lurking on this list. �Ask 
> questions and you will find them willing to help. >> >>Be sure to visit my 
> website�www.tromhelp.com�and download all the files you find there. 
> �Everything on the�tromhelp.com�website is in he public domaine so you can 
> download it and pass it on to your friends. �Make a back up copy of these 
> files by burning them to CD's so you will never lose them. >> >>Keep on 
> TROMing >> >>Pete >>List Moderator >> >>Sent from my iPad > > >
> translation of the german text
> 
> I truely years long genuine Scientology a ' ' glaeubige' '. All on Policy, 
> haende away of Sqiereln, LRH is SOURCE, CoS Managment always is in right, in 
> always is in injustice etc. 
> 
> I experienced last week by a coincidence over Debie Cook, Marty Rathburn and 
> Tom Rinders Schicsall in CoS and read since one week I reports of people with 
> aenlichen experiences, old timer stories etc. By these reports I have myself 
> to withdraw opened from the CoS and step a Freezone group. I do not have 
> money for CoS Bridge and I do not want this Bridge now to make, there I 
> experiencing have that the CoS LRH Tech changed after Miscaviges 
> instructions. I abgentrent myself from CoS. I look for a way at which I, as 
> normal humans with normal incomes (no lawyer or Artzt) in Croatia spirituel 
> to grow can. It gefaelt me which I in TROM read: ' ' Thus, the technology OF 
> the mind must fuel element usable on either A CO audit basis (people helping 
> each more other free themselves OF load/stress) or on A DO-it-yourself basis 
> ' ' From this reasons I moechte this technology try out 
> 
> Many Grueese 
> 
> Aleksandar
> 
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: aleksandar hanzic <[email protected]>
> To: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Welcome to TROM
> 
> Hi Peter!
> My English is very bad in writing, i will write on German, I hope therse is 
> somebody that can translate this for you:
> 
> Ich wahr Jahre lang ein echter Scientology ''glaeubige''. Alles on Policy, 
> haende weg von Sqiereln, LRH ist Source, CoS Managment ist imer in Recht, in 
> bin immer im Unrecht etc...
> 
> Ich habe letzte Woche durch einen Zufall ueber Debie Cook, Marty Rathburn und 
> Tom Rinders Schicsall in CoS erfahren und seit eine Woche ich lese Berichte 
> von Leuten mit aenlichen Erfahrungen, Oldtimer geschichten usw...
> 
> Durch diese Berichte ich habe mich Erschlossen aus der CoS auszutreten und 
> einer Freezone Gruppe beizutreten.
> 
> Ich habe kein Geld fuer CoS Bridge und ich will diesen Bridge jetzt nicht 
> machen, da ich Erfahren habe das die CoS LRH Tech veraendert nach Miscaviges 
> Anweisungen. Ich habe mich von CoS abgentrent. 
> 
> Ich suche nach einen Weg an dem  ich, als ein normaler Mensch mit normalen 
> Einkommen  (kein Anwalt oder Artzt) in Kroatien spirituel  wachsen kann.
> 
> Es gefaelt mir was ich in TROM gelesen habe:
> ''Thus, the technology of the mind must be usable on 
> either a co-audit basis (people helping each other free 
> themselves of charge/stress) or on a do-it-yourself 
> basis...''
> 
> Aus diesem Gruende ich moechte diese Technologie ausprobieren
> Viele Grueese
> Aleksandar
> 
> Dana 19. travnja 2012. 15:48 Pete McLaughlin 
> <[email protected]> je napisao/la:
> Hi and welcome to the TROM mailing list.
> 
> You start out on moderate status on this list, which means i will check your 
> emails before releasing them to the list.  You can get off the moderate 
> status by writing a short introductory email on what brought you to TROM.
> 
> There are several resources available to you here. The TROM list page where 
> you created your account has a link to the archive of the past several years 
> of emails.  You will find many interesting emails there.
> 
> There are a number of very capable beings lurking on this list.  Ask 
> questions and you will find them willing to help.
> 
> Be sure to visit my website www.tromhelp.com and download all the files you 
> find there.  Everything on the tromhelp.com website is in he public domaine 
> so you can download it and pass it on to your friends.  Make a back up copy 
> of these files by burning them to CD's so you will never lose them.
> 
> Keep on TROMing
> 
> Pete
> List Moderator
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> 
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