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I just thought of a more succinct ( or basic) answer to your question on "Dennis' data on fighting the evolutionary desires of the human ape". (Or what ever the exact wording is) I think he was ( or can only be) referring to the programs that the GE comes with. The GE is roughly equal to "ape". And those are the programs which exist in the other three, four or more, non voluntary brains. The cerebrum cortex is the analyzer. The one we have voluntary, "free will" over. The other brains are non voluntary brains, we have little or no significant control over them, just some ability to influence it under some circumstances. David Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 08:59:29 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [TROM1] RE human ape ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Dear David and Paul, Great discussion interaction in your last posts. Have either of you read any of the sayings of other self-realized "masters"? Sometimes I wonder if they might have missed out on something re the mind by not having Dennis' chart, or did they manage to intuit it for themselves. The language both of you speak is the language of self-realized masters as I have been studying them. They boldly state their awareness of One-ness, I-Am-ness, as best as it can be put into dichotomous language form. Paul, as you intimated, there is I believe a type of "fruition" process. One who completes TROM and completely resolves the mind is still a bit like a green tomatoe, but words suddenly degrade what REALLY is in order for the mind to grasp it. The masters also seem to, upon viewing the 'human condition' put a deal of emphasis on letting go of attachments and aversions and over-identification with the body. Last night I was looking at the mind as a sort of entity, just looking at it and suddenly I thought to ask myself, WHO is looking at the mind, and the mind became a smaller thing and I sort of laughed about it. But of course, I have not yet punched in the legs of the "To Know" matrix, so no delusions about what will come up when I do that, however, having that more universal perspective is closer to truth. Just looking at my goal and releasing any conflicting postulates about it have been very, well, "releasing". Paul, are you still punching in the legs of the Postulate Failure cycle, or are you complete? The circle of "satsangs" and "saints" is growing :-) Of course, we never really existed, eh! love, colleen Dear David and Paul, Great discussion interaction in your last posts.� Have either of you read any of the sayings of other self-realized "masters"?� Sometimes I wonder if they might have missed out on something re the mind by not having Dennis' chart, or did they manage to intuit it for themselves.� The language both of you speak is the language of self-realized masters as I have been studying them.� They boldly state their awareness of One-ness, I-Am-ness, as best as it can be put into dichotomous language form. Paul, as you intimated, there is I believe a type of "fruition" process.� One who completes TROM and completely resolves the mind is still a bit like a green tomatoe, but words suddenly degrade what REALLY is in order for the mind to grasp it. The masters also seem to, upon viewing the 'human condition' put a deal of emphasis on letting go of attachments and aversions and over-identification with the body. Last night I was looking at the mind as a sort of entity, just looking at it and suddenly I thought to ask myself, WHO is looking at the mind, and the mind became a smaller thing and I sort of laughed about it.� But of course, I have not yet punched in the legs of the "To Know" matrix, so no delusions about what will come up when I do that, however, having that more universal perspective is closer to truth.� Just looking at my goal and releasing any conflicting postulates about it have been very, well, "releasing". Paul, are you still punching in the legs of the Postulate Failure cycle, or are you complete? The circle of "satsangs" and "saints" is growing� :-)� Of course, we never really existed, eh! love, colleen _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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