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On Aug 6, 2012, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:

On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:31 AM, [email protected] wrote:

On 06 August 2012 08:18, Paul Tipon wrote:

But then I still question if there really is a 'you' out there or is
all of this just me and my magnificent imagination)


Yes and it surprises me that there are not more of us solipsists. lol

Oh yeah. You're one of those guys eh. ;-) Yes, I can see that point but also think there are enough as it is. Now the funny thing is that if you have any kind of an inkling that a Matrix, a virtual environment actually exists ... There is a whole lot of data that there is. Did you know that LRH was into this with his out of body work? I know for myself that solipsis cannot be totally denied. It explains too much both physically and scientifically. You know, all of that mystic stuff that not even Ron talked about but in fact was heavily into. There are mysteries and anamolies in science and of the physical universe that only lend themselves to a solipsis configuration to explain how 'that' can be.

Yes, I can see where solipsism is in the here and now. It's just that I'm to smart, knowing and can see across the heavens and Earth, backward, forward and present. So I'm somewhere between all knowing and not knowing at all. What an interesting spot, huh. Proof there is with a skepticism and that it just may not be that way but it sure can explain a lot when nothing else can.

For me, I just know that it is true. I then look around and sure nuff, there they are but know that I am not one of them but creepy, that we all may be inhabiting a solipsis. It's just that people like me (ahem!) can see above and beyond the solipsis while still playing the solipsis game. In solipsis ragtime no less.

To me the greatest evidence against solipsism is that there are so
many differing points of view each with its created ego which we hold onto,
with our past, to hold onto the identity we created to interact with
others. Some call it ego. Preceding ego will be found the postulate
that created the identity "to be known".

I agree that ego is a component. But then wouldn't an ego keep one in solipsis when there actually might be a virtual reality but we're not supposed to know that. And there you have it, the basic key ... to know. Can we be so sure that we know all there is to know. Of course not but then this is not an argument for solipsis but a potentially possible situation. Just think, the MEST Universe could possibly be a solipsis.

So there we are once again. What is real for you is real for you and it may not be real to anybody else. oops, how did I do that ??? now I'm right back into solipsis. I thought I was climbing out of it, out of a virtual and into something real. Now if I could only find out which reality I'm lost in .............

Martin

Paul/Level 5 in progress
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