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On Aug 22, 2012, at 8:04 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Be & Do are not 'non-life' goals, they just aren't goals.
You need to explain how they aren't because the simplicity is .... to
be a baker man, a mailman, a fireman, an indian chief or just be and
identity named Fred sure as hell better be goals or you will never be
that and one does not just say I am a Doctor and Voila! they are.
Going from the goal to be a (something, fill in the blank) sure as
heck will require some doingness and not just any doingness. So you
better have a goal to do study, to pass exams, to get a license, etc.
for without the proper doingness being accomplished as a goal you
will never be a (something, fill in the blank).
They are the tools of accomplishing goals.
A doingness is not a tool. A hammer is not a doingness. The goal to
build a house is a doingness as a goal. To be the house builder is a
goal. And of course to have a house is a goal.
One adopts an identity (be) to accomplish something.
Oh yeah. Try adopting being a brain surgeon or nuclear physicist
Accomplish is Do. Something is Have.
Well there, you've said it yourself, 'accomplish is do', that means
something was done and what was that something ... a goal or there
would be no doingness and no accomplishment.
You are correct, these are not valid junior goals packages.
I never said they were or weren't. I did say that they were goals
and certainly life goals. As an example, for Be to be a non life
goal, the goal would be to 'Not Be'. So by simple logic to Be is a
goal.
You can be sure that Dennis would have listed be and do if they
were valid.
Let me just ask you one question. Have you ever had the goal to be
smart? Have you ever had the goal to go to school or read a book to
learn something?
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From: Leo Faulhaber [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 97, Issue 40
5. Be, Do, Have (Leo Faulhaber)
Paul Tipon
I would say that Be and Do are possible non-life goals. In contrast
to Have
they are both not on the list of life goals which have been tested by
Dennis. Why are they possible non-life goals? They are too general.
Be is
just holding a specific set of postulates. And those postulates can be
anything, life or non-life. And Do is just realizing any postulate,
life or
non-life. I would be careful in running those on Level 5.
Best wishes
Leo Faulhaber
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