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Hi Function

I have been following your posts and find them overall quite interesting. I can't say that I am following much of what you say about Spare because I have not read those works yet. I do agree with what you say about Dennis and TROM. On my own in my piece by piece posting about TROM and Scn I have worked to point out the same as you. I have not done it as directly (full frontal faceoff assault, kind of confront) but piece by piece on the belief that the smaller piece would be more easily acceptable than the whole chunk at once. Sadly I have run into blind faith when pointing out illogic and showing truth.

A couple of questions/remarks:

In your title you make the statement "Why Dennis Lied about TROM", I didn't get an answer on that. I do see and get the points that are lies. I assume that you may not have meant 'Why' but how and about what. I say this because I see where it is impossible for one to really know another's unspoken intention but certainly easy to see a lie when one knows the truth. Just guessing but your reference to the enlightened not wishing to pass on the abilities and power of the enlightened to the un-enlighthened due to fear is an ageless most often unexpressed and also unknown and un-confronted fear of most, enlightened or not. The idea that one may be creating a potential foe/opponent of unbelievable power, understanding and wisdom beyond one's own self. It is the biggest problem to overcome in becoming a expert at producing quality auditing sessions and of course delivering quality, no holds barred auditing. As you say it has been a problem over time immemorial. After all, we all gotta have games and setting one's self up to always be the loser is no fun at all. Of course I also understand the small think that this is obviously a product of.

In my brief study of Dennis' work, I too found some outright lies and so stopped my study of all save the theory and application of TimeBreaking. I too believe this to be an extremely valuable piece of Tech.

Lastly I wanted to go into the mathematics that Dennis employs and am interested because of your reference to Spare and his use of mathematics.

I did some looking into Dennis' Level 6 and with just a rudimentary perusal came off of it. Here is why. Logic, Boolean Algebra is a logic system. As such it is very useful and Dennis employed it quite well in coming up with all of the tenets for his Postulate Failure Chart. However to carry that over into what Dennis' calls 'bonding' causes problems.
Those problems are:

The mind is not a mathematical system/machine. So for Dennis to say that one has a 'bonding' situation in their mind is to do just that. He then goes into an additional different Tech than TROM to explain how one can eliminate the 'bonding' malaise from the mind. Briefly this bonding phenomenon is from the logic - if ... then ... To me the simplicity here is that if one is operating this way then one must have installed this method of thinking/logic into the beingness of their mind. So rather than, as you say jump into the swamp, the labyrinth quagmire, all one should do is eliminate this system of thinking, not try and drain the swamp. If you actually succeeded at that, you would still be stuck with system of always building new swamps, labyrinths to the Goddess of Logic. There would not be any Freedom from Logic inherent or gained. Just stop working with the logic If ... Then ... I never have and spotted this immediately upon delving into Dennis' Level 6.

Having not read Spare at all but with your statement of him also using mathematics, I wonder about his use of mathematics too.

Paul/Level 5 in progress

On Aug 26, 2012, at 4:06 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Hi Pete,

I have a lot of sympathy with your perspective. I really do. TROM is the
/only/ thing I would recommend as a guide to somebody who wanted
enlightenment, and I think that both Spare and Hubbard's work are likely
to do more damage than good without it.

That's why I write to this group and not somewhere else. The people here
have a fundamental defense. They can just timebreak anything I say if
issues come up. Because of that I can say things and reveal perspectives
which would be of no use, or damaging, elsewhere. The occult,
scientology, self-help, and all spiritual fields in every country I have been to are riddled with power games (mind games) which you essentially
have to be enlightened already to find your way through. Some people
protect themselves by simply ignoring it all, which cuts them off from
the spiritual wisdom which lies beyond the labyrinth. Some listen, and
so spend years or lifetimes confused and entrapped.

TROM is the way out. It is very, very good on its own. It is sufficient
to help a person very much. But it is flawed and its flaws have their
potential dangers for some individuals. Dennis was right that games can
be fun, but he does imply at certain points that you'll give up games
altogether and that /the calm of detachment is preferable/, and he does
do some potentially dangerous stuff with that ethical code. That
emphasis on detachment will be toxic to certain types of individuals who are passionate in the same way that a purple flower is purple, and will be so in absence of entrapment in games. And the code is, quite simply, something which imparts as truth what is merely a strategy Dennis chose to use to protect unenlightened beings. His intentions were good but I--
quite simply-- have no time for any untruth, in service of any cause.

1: detachment. It's actually not dangerous to a being to be attached and
to fight with all the passion in the world for one's fellow beings so
long as one has the protection of an enlightened understanding. And some
beings /flourish/ by a heartfelt... feelingful and soulful reaction to
the /external/ stimuli that the are immersed in. Bodhisattva sometimes
come in this form. Poets sometimes do. People cry in anguish at the
terrible travesties their fellow humans beings become and commit. There
is much sadness in many forms of wisdom. And the world we live in
contains much genuine suffering. And a child awakening to the trauma of monstrously damaged parents and getting passionate over it isn't really unenlightened. It's going through the beautiful process of learning and
growth that a being can go through in this world. That is one of the
beauties of this life of ours. TROM isn't usually explicit on this
point, but /there is/ something of a.... /calm/ to it. At the very
least, I want to make clear to people who might misinterpret that as
/necessary /that rage and joy and agony and ecstasy-- and even evil--
aren't at odds with enlightenment. They are only at odds in so far as a being is trapped in them, and doesn't realise the structure of the game
they are a part of, why it is playing that game, and how it can choose
to stop at any time. They aren't necessarily part of any damaging or
unenlightened form of 'reactive mind', and certain beings will enervate
and de-energise themselves in so far as they /in the long run/-- not
just whilst learning to be able to be detached and do TROM's temporary
levels-- believe that heartfelt and impulsive, strong reactions to
certain stimuli are something to be timebroken etc.

2. Dennis links the 'code of an ethical being' /with his epistemology.
/Now, it's a very good code. It's a wonderful code. By all means follow
that code /by choice/. But what Dennis did was... to impose the code
against the being's will by asserting that not following it is in some
relevant way damaging, which actually violates it. In the very act of
creating the code as though it were /damaging to the being not to follow
it/ he demonstrated that he didn't believe in it, /and that he was
attempting to get the not _totally_/_/enlightened/_/into a state where
they would convince themselves into being damaged every time they
violated it/. Because the enlightened /know/ that no such code is
inherently interlinked with the experience of being enlightened, and
that a being can go from incarnation to incarnation, awakened, without
following it and without having its own interests harmed for not
following it.

Most enslaving lies start out as an attempt to achieve some good. Dennis
discussed, in the TROM manual, whether it was /ok/ to give beings such
power as he was making available to them. And his answer was explicitly
/his ethical code/. He implied that the enlightened would understand
that it was simply /in error/ to violate that code. But that is not so.
Dennis was answering a problem that many sages face in distributing
their knowledge, and his answer was to create a /lie/ of an
epistemology. Many sages do this. This is called 'the right hand path'. Any 'right hand path' school, including the Golden Dawn and almost every institutionalised form of mysticism, is a school based upon a lie in an
attempt to keep dangerously powerful knowledge within structures that
lie about themselves.

The thing is, /every RHP school _is a violation of the code and the
limitations they propagate_/_._ Every RHP school is an attempt to entrap a being against its will, to protect society from that being's newfound
power. And, in so far as it propagates a code like TROM's as though it
were a cosmological necessity (which most do), /it is a violation of
that code/. /It is a hypnotic implant/ /from a more knowing being into a less knowing being, to control the less knowing being in accordance with the more knowing being's will/. You can see why they do this: they don't want people fucking around with taking over the world and getting slaves for themselves as they achieve more and more power. So they pretend that
these activities will harm the being, and that very pretense and the
belief in it is the only thing which will actually harm the being. They
hope that by the time a being /does /reach enlightenment he'll be so
socially connected to the structure that he'll just choose to carry on
with it, or will have seen by example that the hypnotism was the right
path for the school to take. And many of them deliberately only
/partially /enlighten either all adherents or any adherent they don't
trust to follow and perpetuate the code, or make certain /vows/ a
prerequisite to receiving the most potent forms of knowledge.

TROM and Spare are unique in giving this understanding outside of any
such /social /structure, but TROM is a hypnotic RHP form of
pseudo-enlightenment in the same tradition. I am a being who will accept
for myself and others only /*total truth*/. I do not see people have
reached enlightenment as the ones who get to decide for others, or as
any more qualified to do so. And over many lifetimes of playing this
game in the inner sanctum of such schools I have seen that their
attempts usually end up in total toxicity, only perpetuating even more
complete forms of enslavement and confusion. That is why I associate
with TROM and Spare, and why I am here deconstructing the lies in TROM,
and why I am here. There is no real protection but understanding. And
nobody can protect another in any effective sense, in the long run,
except by enabling that being full power to protect and understand for
itself.

I recommend careful study of Spare /as the antidote/ to the lies in
TROM, to be read after level 4 but before or during level 5. His work is
actually perfectly logically and sensibly written. It's just hard to
grasp that at first because of how /sheer and pure/ his presentation of
truth is. You just need to make sure you understand exactly what every
words means and how it is being used, and be careful to make sure that
you understand how he's using grammar. It's often now what you think at first. Each chapter is like an equation. If any part doesn't make total
mathematical sense, carry on and don't act on your understanding of it
yet. Ignore /Ethos/, his book about techniques and magic. Spare's work
has its own flaws, but the purpose for this reccomendation is that
grasping /Spare's/ mathematical/logical purity, which leads to different
conclusions that TROM's, will nullify the belief that TROM's seeming
logical purity is the only possible one. It will free a being from both.


All my love,

Function

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