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Pete,
I never heard of such an event. Where did it hit? Where is the crater? Where is the evidence? David Canada > From: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:24:56 -0800 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Leve 4 "to enhance" @ xriz again > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hi Pul and Xriz > While the story of volcanos and atomic bombs would be one time event there > is another source of a "wall of fire" mass extinction that happened several > time in earth past. > > An asteroid impact will cause a massive shockwave followed by a wall of fire > and rain of hot debris that will torch forests and create a dust cloud the > shades the surface of the planet for many years. > 12,900 years ago a comet, which is a mass of gravel and ice hit the area of > Canada. it was large enough to melt the glaciers here. the shock wave and > heat killed all the large animals like mammoth and saber tooth tigers and men > that lived in North America. There was a world wide civilization that > produced precision stone work that was wiped out. A new ice age ensued and > at the end of that only a myth of Atlantis remained. > > There is comet debris in America and Europe that proves this happened. > > Assuming that these events happen periodically there would be a number of > beings with this common engram of a massive disaster involving a shocking > explosion, wall of fire, and death. > > What do you think? > > Sincerely > Pete > > > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:51 AM, xrizfz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ************* > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > ************ > > Am 15.11.2012 18:44, schrieb Paul Tipon: > >> ************* > >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > >> ************ > >> Hi xriz, > >> > >> On Nov 15, 2012, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >>> > >>> The level OT 3 adresses the BT`s that had the incidents. But why are > >>> they stuck with some of us ? Because we had such incidents too. A couple > >>> of times even. > >>> The reason for beings flocking together is a common interest or > >>> compulsion. Be it case or life as it should be. > >>> > >>> xriz > >> Here is what The Pilot says: "I hate to say it but OT3 was researched in > >> a very slipshod manner. Luckily, we get away with spotting only a tiny > >> piece of Incident One because the incident does not have much force or > >> charge on it. It can hardly be considered a heavy implant. What it > >> really is, is a sort of welcoming ceremony or a 'sick' course that people > >> get put through as they come into this universe to show them how the game > >> is setup down here." > > That is true for people who got that case off. It feels like a prank for me > > for example. But the seriousness lies in not being aware of things, thus > > being run by them unwittingly. > > Case is just like the shadows that fisherman create in the water so they > > can direct fish swarms into the nets. Could the fish examine the shadows > > for what they are, these shadows had no power over the fish. > > > > OT 2 for example is a simple thing to run. 99,998% of earth population > > demonstrates stupid compulsions all day long which stems directly from the > > OT 2 material ! And they do not find that out, they give themselves and > > everybody around broken lives. > > You can be clean though. People around you will cool down then and abandon > > the aberrations you do not have as long as you are present. > > > >> As I said below, there are also those situations where one will also not > >> be the effect. My experience is that BTs being degraded Thetans have very > >> little power and can only communicate on a Thetan line, not having any > >> bodies of their own. As one becomes more able and aware, one does not > >> follow their communication or give it much importance. There is also the > >> ability to know from who, from what and from where communications are > >> coming from. As one's ability increases, one is also able to act more > >> ethically and survivally and ignore aberrated, non-sequitur communications > >> whether from one's own mind or another's. > > All of what you say is correct. There is something to add though which is > > very important: the state of the surrounding. > > On OT 3 an incredible nice thing is done. One helps those BT`s run their > > incidents. This enables them to recover and finally leave in order to live > > their own life. They usually are deeply grateful for this kind of help. > > > > xriz > > > >> > >> Best advice is to relax, just keep TROMming along. If you want more data, > >> reading The Pilot is great. Also Level 4, what I call "Freedom from > >> Overwhelm" will obviously cure what ails one Theta wise. > >> > >> Paul/Level 5 in progress > >> > >>> Am 15.11.2012 00:23, schrieb TROM: > >>>> ************* > >>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > >>>> ************ > >>>> OT 3 is not addressing YOUR involvement in the incident. It is addressing > >>>> the BTs OT 3 incident. Thus your actual involvement with the incident > >>>> has no > >>>> bearing on the matter in running OT 3. Best to just run TROM and not get > >>>> involved with trying to run entities. Dennis spoke of his beliefs about > >>>> entities on one of his tapes. I think it was this tape: > >>>> 02_Dissociation12Jan93.mp3 > >>>> > >>>> Brian > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Paul Tipon [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:33 AM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Leve 4 "to enhance" @ xriz again > >>>> > >>>> This is a back channel post to another TROMmer about OT3. I will be > >>>> posting more too. > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 11, 2012, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >>>>> I see your point and understand that well. > >>>>> Can you tell me back channel what the false informations are ? > >>>>> Would be > >>>>> great though if it can be said openly on the list here. > >>>>> I certainly want to get rid of false philosophies i swallowed > >>>>> unwittingly. > >>>>> > >>>>> thanks > >>>>> xriz > >>>> One has to realize that not everyone suffered from the engram of > >>>> OT3. Depending on one's participation or non-participation is one > >>>> factor. Whether or not one was one of those trapped and sent to > >>>> Earth and is still being a body Thetan or has since moved up the > >>>> Thetan ladder is another factor. Then there are the ones not trapped > >>>> at all who only observed or ran the trapping. LRH did nothing to > >>>> sort out what should be run in accordance with one's involvement. > >>>> Some were not even near the incident and had no news or any data on > >>>> it at all. > >>>> > >>>> I have some consideration that Level 4 runs out OT3. When you get > >>>> the cognition of 'Freedom from Overwhelm', you will know what I > >>>> mean. In the mean time, Level 4 is heavily into overts and > >>>> motivators. Ego is also on that line. Making others wrong and self > >>>> right is an ego thang. The justification line that everyone puts out > >>>> is also an ego thang. One doing a motivator is both an ego thang and > >>>> a justification thang. And of course a motivator leads to new > >>>> justified overts. > >>>> > >>>> These are all actions that have nothing to do with games but of > >>>> course get used and put into the playing of games. The biggest > >>>> factor that keeps any aberration in is avoidance which is a withhold > >>>> phenomena which is an overt/motivator package product. It is > >>>> important to handle overts and motivators as it is to handle one's > >>>> case of engrams. The two do not mix but they sure get heaped onto > >>>> the pile with each other and mixed and blended up into a really ugly > >>>> smoothie. > >>>> > >>>> This is why I really stress Level 4 and I effort to get others to see > >>>> how really big a Level it is. It is the biggest. It will provide > >>>> the most gains. It has the capacity to solve all of one's case, both > >>>> engramic and withhold wise. > >>>> > >>>> There is also the obvious result from Level 4 of handling GPMS. They > >>>> just kind of disappear because they are largely de-stimulated but not > >>>> erased completely. As a minimum, the overts and motivators attached > >>>> to GPMs greatly reduce and if done thoroughly, all can be as-ised. > >>>> These overts and motivators that are directly connected to GPMs are > >>>> the major portion of the charge that GPMs have. I believe anything > >>>> left over can get handled in Level 5 where the unknownness to > >>>> knownness can handle the silly, moronic packages that are the > >>>> terminals vs. opterms can get as-ised by truth and knownness. > >>>> > >>>> Paul/Level 5 in progress > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Trom mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Trom mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >>> > >>> > >>> End of Trom Digest, Vol 100, Issue 13 > >>> ************************************* > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Trom mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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