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Yup, Atlantis incident.
Those are the strong guys like you and me which were still strong but
corrupted already, prone to pick up more case.
xriz
Am 15.11.2012 21:24, schrieb Pete Mclaughlin:
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Hi Pul and Xriz
While the story of volcanos and atomic bombs would be one time event there is another
source of a "wall of fire" mass extinction that happened several time in earth
past.
An asteroid impact will cause a massive shockwave followed by a wall of fire
and rain of hot debris that will torch forests and create a dust cloud the
shades the surface of the planet for many years.
12,900 years ago a comet, which is a mass of gravel and ice hit the area of
Canada. it was large enough to melt the glaciers here. the shock wave and heat
killed all the large animals like mammoth and saber tooth tigers and men that
lived in North America. There was a world wide civilization that produced
precision stone work that was wiped out. A new ice age ensued and at the end
of that only a myth of Atlantis remained.
There is comet debris in America and Europe that proves this happened.
Assuming that these events happen periodically there would be a number of
beings with this common engram of a massive disaster involving a shocking
explosion, wall of fire, and death.
What do you think?
Sincerely
Pete
On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:51 AM, xrizfz <[email protected]> wrote:
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Am 15.11.2012 18:44, schrieb Paul Tipon:
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Hi xriz,
On Nov 15, 2012, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:
The level OT 3 adresses the BT`s that had the incidents. But why are
they stuck with some of us ? Because we had such incidents too. A couple
of times even.
The reason for beings flocking together is a common interest or
compulsion. Be it case or life as it should be.
xriz
Here is what The Pilot says: "I hate to say it but OT3 was researched in a very
slipshod manner. Luckily, we get away with spotting only a tiny piece of Incident One
because the incident does not have much force or charge on it. It can hardly be
considered a heavy implant. What it really is, is a sort of welcoming ceremony or a
'sick' course that people get put through as they come into this universe to show them
how the game is setup down here."
That is true for people who got that case off. It feels like a prank for me for
example. But the seriousness lies in not being aware of things, thus being run
by them unwittingly.
Case is just like the shadows that fisherman create in the water so they can
direct fish swarms into the nets. Could the fish examine the shadows for what
they are, these shadows had no power over the fish.
OT 2 for example is a simple thing to run. 99,998% of earth population
demonstrates stupid compulsions all day long which stems directly from the OT 2
material ! And they do not find that out, they give themselves and everybody
around broken lives.
You can be clean though. People around you will cool down then and abandon the
aberrations you do not have as long as you are present.
As I said below, there are also those situations where one will also not be the
effect. My experience is that BTs being degraded Thetans have very little
power and can only communicate on a Thetan line, not having any bodies of their
own. As one becomes more able and aware, one does not follow their
communication or give it much importance. There is also the ability to know
from who, from what and from where communications are coming from. As one's
ability increases, one is also able to act more ethically and survivally and
ignore aberrated, non-sequitur communications whether from one's own mind or
another's.
All of what you say is correct. There is something to add though which is very
important: the state of the surrounding.
On OT 3 an incredible nice thing is done. One helps those BT`s run their
incidents. This enables them to recover and finally leave in order to live
their own life. They usually are deeply grateful for this kind of help.
xriz
Best advice is to relax, just keep TROMming along. If you want more data, reading The
Pilot is great. Also Level 4, what I call "Freedom from Overwhelm" will
obviously cure what ails one Theta wise.
Paul/Level 5 in progress
Am 15.11.2012 00:23, schrieb TROM:
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OT 3 is not addressing YOUR involvement in the incident. It is addressing
the BTs OT 3 incident. Thus your actual involvement with the incident has no
bearing on the matter in running OT 3. Best to just run TROM and not get
involved with trying to run entities. Dennis spoke of his beliefs about
entities on one of his tapes. I think it was this tape:
02_Dissociation12Jan93.mp3
Brian
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From: Paul Tipon [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Leve 4 "to enhance" @ xriz again
This is a back channel post to another TROMmer about OT3. I will be
posting more too.
On Nov 11, 2012, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I see your point and understand that well.
Can you tell me back channel what the false informations are ?
Would be
great though if it can be said openly on the list here.
I certainly want to get rid of false philosophies i swallowed
unwittingly.
thanks
xriz
One has to realize that not everyone suffered from the engram of
OT3. Depending on one's participation or non-participation is one
factor. Whether or not one was one of those trapped and sent to
Earth and is still being a body Thetan or has since moved up the
Thetan ladder is another factor. Then there are the ones not trapped
at all who only observed or ran the trapping. LRH did nothing to
sort out what should be run in accordance with one's involvement.
Some were not even near the incident and had no news or any data on
it at all.
I have some consideration that Level 4 runs out OT3. When you get
the cognition of 'Freedom from Overwhelm', you will know what I
mean. In the mean time, Level 4 is heavily into overts and
motivators. Ego is also on that line. Making others wrong and self
right is an ego thang. The justification line that everyone puts out
is also an ego thang. One doing a motivator is both an ego thang and
a justification thang. And of course a motivator leads to new
justified overts.
These are all actions that have nothing to do with games but of
course get used and put into the playing of games. The biggest
factor that keeps any aberration in is avoidance which is a withhold
phenomena which is an overt/motivator package product. It is
important to handle overts and motivators as it is to handle one's
case of engrams. The two do not mix but they sure get heaped onto
the pile with each other and mixed and blended up into a really ugly
smoothie.
This is why I really stress Level 4 and I effort to get others to see
how really big a Level it is. It is the biggest. It will provide
the most gains. It has the capacity to solve all of one's case, both
engramic and withhold wise.
There is also the obvious result from Level 4 of handling GPMS. They
just kind of disappear because they are largely de-stimulated but not
erased completely. As a minimum, the overts and motivators attached
to GPMs greatly reduce and if done thoroughly, all can be as-ised.
These overts and motivators that are directly connected to GPMs are
the major portion of the charge that GPMs have. I believe anything
left over can get handled in Level 5 where the unknownness to
knownness can handle the silly, moronic packages that are the
terminals vs. opterms can get as-ised by truth and knownness.
Paul/Level 5 in progress
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