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Hi Ludo, Welcome to the list. Reading your story made me remember my way to TROM which is not so far different from yours. -Jurgen
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 23:28:08 -0800 To: [email protected] Subject: [TROM1] Fwd: Welcome to TROM ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Begin forwarded message: > From: Ludo Vermeulen > Date: December 6, 2012, 10:34:31 PM PST > To: Pete Mclaughlin > Subject: Re: Welcome to TROM > > Hello everyone, I have been involved in Scientology from 1989 till 2000, > mostly on staff in Brussels. I had cognited on what it was and wanted to go > OT, but always had an inner conflict with the high pressure and demands that > where completely fanatic for the outside world. So I left thinking there must > be something wrong with me but I just couldn't have it. But I still wanted to > go free, someday, later, and I left it at that untill about 4 weeks ago. > > And then I stumbled over some videos on the internet about Marty Rathbun and > Mike Rinder having left and exposing the brutalities at Int management level. > And suddenly I realized the problem hadn't been me but the Church altering > the tech and enforcing it to the public. I blew so much charge and came right > uptone about the whole subject again. I couldn't stop looking for more data > in the independant field and I saw the world of difference between the > livelihood on one side and the dead, robotic TRs on the other. I discovered > what a wonderful being David Mayo was from his lectures. And then I came > across Denisses reminiscences of the early years and it was just beautiful. > > And that's how I discovered TROM and I absolutely loved it from the > beginning. I have gone over the theory twice already and just from > understanding the concept I have gained so much ARC. There is an > understanding there of life that is senior to anything else, that is basic to > anything else and I notice it in my understanding of people and situations. > > To give an example, just a few minutes ago I was thinking how much I have > changed already from understanding the mechanics of the mind and I recognised > I have less fears from communicating. I am much more outgoing. I contemplated > that it was my mind throwing those fears at me, not the reality of the actual > situation, and then I suddenly realized it was not my mind but me myself who > put it there and then blamed my mind for it in order to keep it in force. And > that started a line charge till my stomach hurt. And after a while I was > thinking I have to write this down or I'll forget what it was. I right away > after that realized this was yet another thing I had just ordered my mind to > throw at me. Of course I can remember this insight in my use or rather misuse > of my mind, and there came a second burst of laughter probably taking charge > off a lot of incidents relating to this. This is powerful stuff... and I've > enjoyed sharing it with you. Sorry if it's a bit long. > > For now, best regards, > > Ludo. > > Op 6-dec.-2012 om 16:56 heeft Pete Mclaughlin het volgende geschreven: > >> >> >> HI AND WELCOME TO HE TROM MAILING LIST. >> You will at first be on moderated status where your posts to the list will >> be checked by he List Moderator before posting. You can get unmoderated >> status by posting an introduction about what brought you to TROM. >> >> You should read through the archive of old emails. Many of the question you >> have have already been answered there. You will find the archive at >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> Be sure and visit the sister site www.tromhelp.com where you will fing many >> files of TROM audio, transcripts and books available for download. All these >> materials are in the public domain so you can copy and share them with >> others as you like. >> >> Keep on TROMing >> Pete McLaughlin >> List Moderator >> Begin forwarded message: From: Ludo Vermeulen <[email protected]> Date: December 6, 2012, 10:34:31 PM PST To: Pete Mclaughlin <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Welcome to TROM Hello everyone, I have been involved in Scientology from 1989 till 2000, mostly on staff in Brussels. I had cognited on what it was and wanted to go OT, but always had an inner conflict with the high pressure and demands that where completely fanatic for the outside world. So I left thinking there must be something wrong with me but I just couldn't have it. But I still wanted to go free, someday, later, and I left it at that untill about 4 weeks ago. And then I stumbled over some videos on the internet about Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder having left and exposing the brutalities at Int management level. And suddenly I realized the problem hadn't been me but the Church altering the tech and enforcing it to the public. I blew so much charge and came right uptone about the whole subject again. I couldn't stop looking for more data in the independant field and I saw the world of difference between the livelihood on one side and the dead, robotic TRs on the other. I discovered what a wonderful being David Mayo was from his lectures. And then I came across Denisses reminiscences of the early years and it was just beautiful. And that's how I discovered TROM and I absolutely loved it from the beginning. I have gone over the theory twice already and just from understanding the concept I have gained so much ARC. There is an understanding there of life that is senior to anything else, that is basic to anything else and I notice it in my understanding of people and situations. To give an example, just a few minutes ago I was thinking how much I have changed already from understanding the mechanics of the mind and I recognised I have less fears from communicating. I am much more outgoing. I contemplated that it was my mind throwing those fears at me, not the reality of the actual situation, and then I suddenly realized it was not my mind but me myself who put it there and then blamed my mind for it in order to keep it in force. And that started a line charge till my stomach hurt. And after a while I was thinking I have to write this down or I'll forget what it was. I right away after that realized this was yet another thing I had just ordered my mind to throw at me. Of course I can remember this insight in my use or rather misuse of my mind, and there came a second burst of laughter probably taking charge off a lot of incidents relating to this. This is powerful stuff... and I've enjoyed sharing it with you. Sorry if it's a bit long. For now, best regards, Ludo. Op 6-dec.-2012 om 16:56 heeft Pete Mclaughlin <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven: HI AND WELCOME TO HE TROM MAILING LIST.You will at first be on moderated status where your posts to the list will be checked by he List Moderator before posting. You can get unmoderated status by posting an introduction about what brought you to TROM. You should read through the archive of old emails. Many of the question you have have already been answered there. You will find the archive at http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom Be sure and visit the sister site www.tromhelp.com where you will fing many files of TROM audio, transcripts and books available for download. All these materials are in the public domain so you can copy and share them with others as you like. Keep on TROMingPete McLaughlinList Moderator _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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