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Pete, p.s. It is the lack of all 4 postulates that is the cross-package, and nothing else. Having only 2 postulates out of 4 is the cross-package, as we need all 4 to be sane. Aarre
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Pete McLaughlin < pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > > Hi Paul and Svoboda > Thanks for the responces. They got my brain working again. > > Here is what i have come up with so far. > > the normal to sex goals package has male and female complementing each > other. > > 1. must sex 3. must be sexed > > > by making females and males opponents in a game we move the female > postulate to the opponents position and the negative female postulate to > the complementary position. > > 1. must sex 3 must not be sexed > > 2. must not sex 4 must be sexed > > This is by definition a cross package as 1 and 3 are not exactly > complementary. > > Does this look like a correct interpretation of Dennis' statement that: > > "As a male, he soon starts to get opposed to females, and vice-versa. > Very soon he is in a terrible state on the subject, for the two genders are > not intrinsically in opposition to each other. > > You end up with a classic case of cross-packaging. We find the male > desperately asserting his masculinity, while heavily suppressing any > feminine characteristics in his personality, and vice-versa for the female. > The whole subject soon takes on the quality of a nightmare, and becomes one > big unsolvable problem. And it stays this way until the being regains his > full freedom of choice to occupy, at will, any one of the four classes > available to him on the subject." > > IF so then on any goals in life if you make what should be a complementary > postulate into the opposition postulate in a game you are cross packaging. > > > > Keep on TROMing > Pete > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Paul Tipon <pti...@proftitleserv.com> > *To:* trom@lists.newciv.org > *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:19 AM > *Subject:* [TROM1] Cross Packaging? again > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > Hi Pete, > > After reading further, I see that I may have muddied the waters a little > more. With the following definition here is what I see. > > On Jan 23, 2013, at 11:44 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote: > > > OK > > Here's the definition of cross packaging. it doesn't apply so Dennis > misspoke in the TROM manual. > > > > > > Cross-packaging > > When a junior package is not erasing cleanly the most common fault is > that the package is not a true package. This is known as > > cross-packaging. It is one of the 'deadly' sins. When two or more > junior packages are crossed up into one package neither of the packages > will erase and the whole mish-mash just grinds on forever. The therapist > who tries to resolve a man's drinking problem by addressing his infantile > sex life is guilty of cross-packaging. This is why the 'therapy' goes on > forever with no relief for the patient. > > The packages are not the little differences that exist between the sexes, > male to female or female to male but the fact that male is different than > female and vice versa. So it is not the differences that exist between a > male and a female but the simple fact that male is different than female > and female different than male. To heck with all the differences thereby > derived, it is that male is not female and female is not male. > > With two separate things which are not the duplicate of the other, there > will always be a difference. To then go into all the differences that one > can spot between the two sexes will not address the basic. So one can > process out all of the differences that they can find between sexes and > totally miss the basic. The basic is that one sex is not the other. > > So if one then processes on those differences between two items, one may > miss the fact that there is an opposition and games condition because there > are two different things, not that there are two or more differences in > sexual characteristics. Basically not being able to see the forest for the > trees. Processing out all the different trees and all of their differences > between each other will not process out the opposition terminal of the > forest. Just process on 'the forest'. As in Dennis' sample, process > alcohol not "infantile sex life". A person may give you or you yourself > may give yourself housekeeping as the opposition subject when it is really > male vs female or female vs male and nothing more non-esoteric than that. > > I believe Dennis calls this 'Cross-Packaging' as all crossed or mixed up > and not addressing the correct item. > > Paul, Level 5 in progress > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >
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