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Hi David I would like to acknowledge that you have bypassed charge there.
Sincerely Pete On Feb 3, 2013, at 3:36 PM, David Pelly <[email protected]> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > In order for me to get back into TROM, I would have to audit out the engrams > and GPMs and ARCX that I acquired from TROM and the number of so called > people who pretended to be doing well and pretended to be experts in TROM, > that pissed me off when I was in deep despair and deep suffering from being > stuck in crap and case and needed assistance and didn't get any, other than > being told to go and read the archives or something stupid like that. > > That could take a year by itself. > > :) > > David > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Pete Mclaughlin > <[email protected]> wrote: >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> >> Hi David >> Have you tried reading the kindle version? I would be really pleased if it >> helped you understand and apply TROM. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete >> >> On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:43 AM, David Pelly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>> ************ >>> Pete, >>> >>> Thank you for the explanation. >>> >>> But distinguishing whose words are whose in an editing, is basic literary >>> integrity or editing integrity. >>> >>> And just because Greg and Judith did not do it, does not mean it is the >>> right thing to do. >>> >>> Three wrongs do not make a right. >>> >>> You should also include an explanation that TROM went through two previous >>> edits prior to yours, and that you have no idea of whose words are whose, >>> if you in deed don't. >>> >>> One editing by Greg and another by Judith. >>> >>> (But it just occurred to me to ask: are there not tapes for the record?) >>> >>> At least Judith, that I know of, became totally pissed off and disdainful >>> of TROM and gave up. >>> >>> That likely gives some indication as to the difficulty of her case and >>> TROMs inability to help her with her case. >>> >>> Similar to my situation. >>> >>> It is possible that if she would of been helped by TROM, she might of >>> acquired some extra free theta units and did more work and did the editing >>> properly. >>> >>> It is difficult to think of much when the biggest issue is the size and >>> severity of one's case and the desperate need to deal with it. It is a >>> simple matter of priority. >>> >>> >>> >>> Like it has been said, when you are up to your ass in alligators it is hard >>> to think that the main goal is to drain the swamp. >>> >>> A person has to come up the tone scale and theta scale to think and >>> function with full integrity. >>> >>> In this case it is literary integrity or editing integrity. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I suspect that Greg also became disdainful too. >>> >>> I know a number of others who did likewise. >>> >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Pete Mclaughlin >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> ************* >>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>>> ************ >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi David >>>> >>>> Whose words are whose? An excellent question. >>>> >>>> In 1979 Denis gave his notes to Greg Pickering to write TROM. Those notes >>>> do not exist to check how accurately Greg did the job. >>>> >>>> Many people complained that the book was hard to understand and needed an >>>> index. >>>> >>>> Greg quit as the distributor of TROM around 1990 so Dennis turned over >>>> Australian distribution to Judith Anderson. >>>> Judith responded to concerns about spelling and grammar errors in TROM by >>>> editing the text, adding her own interpretation of how to run TROM to the >>>> end of the Manual as an appendix and who knows what else as no editing >>>> notes were made and the original 1979 is gone or at least I have never >>>> seen a copy. >>>> >>>> The TROM manual at the Freezone site is the one I started with and is the >>>> Judith Anderson edition. >>>> >>>> So if anyone is serious about getting the original version and verifying >>>> that none of the tech has been lost you need to contact Greg and get >>>> Dennis' notes or at least a copy of Greg's original 1979 version of the >>>> manual. >>>> >>>> Thanks for asking David, everyone should be aware of what version of TROM >>>> they are studying. >>>> >>>> Sincerely >>>> Pete >>>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 7:19 PM, David Pelly <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ************* >>>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>>>> ************ >>>>> The right thing to do is to do like Aarre said. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There has to be some sort of a distinction in whose words are whose. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Aarre Peltomaa <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> ************* >>>>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>>>>> ************ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Aarre Peltomaa >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Pete, >>>>>>> I still think that a short editing note won't be that much distraction, >>>>>>> and is worth it. Or you could change the font each time you put in an >>>>>>> inclusion. With a reality factor in the beginning explaining the font >>>>>>> change, that wouldn't be too distracting. >>>>>>> What do the others think about this ? >>>>>>> Aarre Peltomaa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Pete Mclaughlin >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Aarre and Roberto >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All you need to do to see the changes is open up the kindle version in >>>>>>>> one window and open up the old version in a second window and read >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Part of my purpose in doing the editing was to eliminate all the >>>>>>>> distractions that the bad grammar imposed on the reader. It would be >>>>>>>> counter productive to now add in the distractions of editing notes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely >>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Aarre Peltomaa <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Hi Pete, >>>>>>>> > I finally got Kindle working and downloaded the manual and your >>>>>>>> > additions to my desktop; wonderful ! The fonts and bolded parts >>>>>>>> > are easy to read, and large enough type size. It is arranged very >>>>>>>> > nicely. The only thing that I can ask at cursory glance is that >>>>>>>> > any additions that you put in, such as the charts, be marked as >>>>>>>> > added by you, and not in the original manual. This way a person >>>>>>>> > will know what was written by Dennis, and what was written by you. >>>>>>>> > This annotation should also apply to any additional sections, >>>>>>>> > chapters, explanations, etc., that you have added. I think this is >>>>>>>> > a very important point, and I welcome input from other TROMers >>>>>>>> > about this. >>>>>>>> > Thanks very much for this work, >>>>>>>> > Aarre Peltomaa >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Trom mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Trom mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Trom mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trom mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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