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David


On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Cory Keeler <[email protected]>wrote:

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> Read your post, as well as all the others. Enjoying all posts, don't want
> to bring up a "not know" on anyone. So all know your posts are being read.
> You too slim.
>
> So is the game of trom to bring all in recalled memory into view again? If
> it is a game, does that make it bad?
>
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> On Jan 18, 2014, at 6:16 PM, David Pelly <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I just realized that what I just posted may be to steep a gradient for
> some, so I added some more explanation, to shed more light on the process,
> in this version:
>
>
>
>
> January 17, 2014.
>
> I have been working on the postulate failure chart for a good couple of
> weeks now.
>
> I first had to  unpack  it, and take it apart line by line, word by word,
> concept by concept, step by step, and go over it every which way, so I
> could see through it and understand it.
>
> Getting a fluent understanding of the four  "personalities"  is vital.
>
> The PFC will not work until you do get a good full understanding of the
> personalities; namely: "must be known", "must know", "must not be known",
> "must not know" .
>
> You must be able to define the people you know,  by those TROM
> definitions, by heart.
>
> (I plan to post my notes later.)
>
> But I want to say this,  to help others who may be working on it too, so
> you  can have a different point of view on it.
>
> The PFC  is not easy to understand.
>
>
>
>
> I ran through the chart once, then twice and it seemed to run ok, got some
> stuff,  but not cut too deep.
>
> Then all kinds of other very negative, disabling, life blocking
> postulates, I suppose they could be called junior universes of sorts, (in
> TROM language)  began to come to view and were to be begging to be dealt
> with.
>
> They were like hornets buzzing around my head begging to be swatted,
> killed and put out of their misery,  or like voices wanting to be heard, or
> dealt with.
>
>
>
> These were all coming from line 1A  and 1 B.
>
> Especially line 1B.
>
> *"Must not know"*, gave way  to,  or uncovered:
>
> "Must not be", "must not do", "must not have".
>
> Those gave way  to, or uncovered:
>
> "Can't be", "can't do", "can't have".
>
> which in turn gave way to, or uncovered,  a swarm of other suppressive,
> invalidating, disabling, life blocking  implants. Which spurred and exposed
> and brought to the surface overwhelming suppressed deep sadness and
> resulting inferiority complexes, very early on in this life time track.
>
>
>
>
>
> [They could also be called "false and limiting beliefs or programs or
> conditionnings, or imprints. They are causitive, thoughts, emotions, words,
> statements, programs that lurk below your level of awareness in your
> subconscious mind, and control your entire existence, emotions  and
> functions, and how you think and feel about yourself and others, like
> programs in your computer. In other words they are hidden influences. There
> are lots of wordless postulates, too. They are feelings and sensations. ]
>
>  (In TROM language this is called: infliction, rejection, deprivation,
> revelation)
>
> (But TROM language does not do justice to explaining what came up in my
> case.)
>
>
>
> The point I want to make here, is that one postulate failure could
> actually take days or even possibly weeks to run and rerun, and rerun, and
> rerun until flat and nothing more comes up. You feel clear on that issue.
> That is what Dennis means by "no more change".
>
>
>
> As of now, I am about three or four days into running what 1A and 1B
> opened up.
>
> This appears to be my predominant postulate failure.
>
>
> That means that "must be known" is my authority figure,  my suppressive,
> my abuser. (primarily my father, but there are others)
>
> Any asshole, bully or abuser in your life.
>
> (The degree to which we are successful in life, is inversely proportional
> to the number of, and degree of assholes (suppressives / abusers/bullies)
> in our life, and the amount of abuse and suppression we received in our
> life.)
>
> On line 1A; I was first the "must know" ( curious, wanting to know and be
> known) then I got overwhelmed and became an enforced  "must not know"  and
> "must not be known" at the same time.
>
> "Must not know" and "must not be known"  were appearing on my mental
> screen at the same time  for a couple of days.  I could not separate them.
>
>
>
>
> So be prepared for this and stuff like this.
>
>  Anything could happen.   Do not hurry.
>
> And run everything that comes up "flat"  before moving on.
>
> I find " time breaking" works better for me,  digs deeper, when I do it
> with my eyes closed, especially to begin with.
>
> I just close my eyes and look at the "whatever is going on" (mental image
> pictures on my mental screen) while at the same time being mentally aware
> of my physical environment (surroundings)  and what I am doing (it is about
> intention) and using a variety of techniques I learned before getting into
> TROM,  mostly dianetics type techniques, mainly "repeater technique" , and
> "getting deeper into it" and "looking all around"  and "looking deeper into
> it", "making more of it", and comparing it to my mental awareness of my
> present time surroundings.
>
> While I am doing this, I am bringing the scenes (facsimilies) of my case,
> to full view and exposing all aspects of it, and charge is running off.
>
> I have ran off a lot of charge in the last few days.
>
> I even do it before falling to sleep at night and then I fall asleep and
> my mind keeps running case  all  night on it's own.
>
>   I experience  lots of heavy dreaming, even several dreams going on at
> the same time.
>
>  I go into deep sleep too.  I sure feel good when I wake up in the
> morning.
>
> This sure makes good use of time.
>
> My experience is that it is not good to go to bed on a full stomach
> either. Little or no food is best for me.
>
>
>
> I suppose doing it (time breaking) with eyes open, could be done when the
> bulk of the charge is run off, as a finishing off technique.
>
>
>
> If any one here is also working on the same level and having any trouble,
> just ask and I will be glad to help if I can.
>
>
> That has been my experience so far.
>
> I hope this helps someone.
>
>
> David
>
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