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Hi Brian,

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On Jan 28, 2014, at 1:48 PM, TROM wrote:

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I'd just clarify that a postulate is not a statement.

For lack of a better metaphor of what as a spirit, one is doing, the word statement was used. A better description would be 'a mental statement' or perhaps even better, a 'spiritual thought by the spirit, strictly in spiritual thought terms' to have something occur.

Thinking that postulates are some verbalization is not correct.

This is true and I had no intention to mislead and I didn't say it was a verbalization.

A postulate of gold bars IS the gold bars, the postulate IS the thing itself. Existence is not brought about by a via of making a statement about existence.

I would say that 'THE' gold bars are the result of a postulate. They are not the postulate. The gold bars appear for they are the result of a postulate made about gold bars coming into existence.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Tipon [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TROM1] Too much attention on postulates from the past

A postulate is a postulate.  A positive postulate is positive and the
simplest example is,    (blank)   will be this and so and so.  This
postulate can be positive at its inception yet in the future it may
not fit the circumstances and thereby then be a negative or counter
postulate.  The same is true for an 'in the beginning' negative
postulate as time progresses.

So how does one not booby trap themselves with negative and positive
postulates?  How can one tell whether or not a postulate will wrongly
apply at some future time in totally different circumstances.  Well
unless you can foretell the future for every postulate you and anyone
else ever made, you can't.

Boy does this ever sound like a booby trapped loosing game, huh.

Well if you want it to be ... it sure is.  Then too even if you don't
want it to be, it sure is or is that 'is not'.  For one cannot
foretell the future of any and all postulates made by you and
everyone else across all of time.

Now let's go back and look into what a postulate really is.  A
postulate is a statement that brings an is-ness into existence.  So a
statement of an is-ness is a postulate.  And, an as-isness is a
postulate that states a truth if one has made a true statement of as-
isness.  Such a statement also has the power to as-is and if done
thoroughly has the power to vanish the is-ness.

Now all this brings into this discussion alter-isness and not-
isness.  Alter-isness is a postulate that changes something, a
postulate into something else, an altered-isness or an altered
postulate.  Damn!  There we go!  Postulates can be altered.  But what
about that last remaining one, not-isness.

Well a not is-ness is a postulate counter to a postulate and it sets
up a force/counter force.  It does not is-ness it, as-is it or alter-
isness it and certainly doesn't as-isness it.  Darn!  I guess we
would have to call this a ridge.  Interesting thing about this ridge
is that it is timeless for the force/counter force are locked, one
against the other and remain that way regardless of time.  These
ridges are then energy against energy and they go nowhere with
respect to each other and therefore no motion means that no time
passes for these two forces because there is no motion between them
for the space that they occupy.  Matter is a special example of this.

Oh, that means that is-ness, as-isness and alter-isness can change
this force/counter force arrangement.  Hmmmmmmmm!

So postulates are altered, vanished or new postulates put in at any
time in the future can change this force/counter force postulate.
Hey!  That's just like stated above.

So in other words, one who is good at postulating and employing the 4
methods of existence can change any and all postulates, past, present
and future.

Well damn damn damn.  All one has to do is use any type of postulate
except for the not-isness postulate, huh.

Don't think I have another worry in all of 'existence' now.  Counter
postulates are not the bugaboo but not employing the other three
types of is-ness to bringing things into or out of existence is the
problem.  I also see that postulates do not necessarily last forever
but can be changed with is-ness, as-isness and alter-isness.

What a relief!!!!  Does this help anyone else?

TROM with RI and TimeBreaking is an exercise at employing all of the
4 states of existence and when you can apply any of the 3 states
other than not-isness, one regains the use of their ability to
postulate for their and others good.  Just realize that if you get
too good at this you can vanish all and create all newness or re-
create the old.  That includes you, yourself.

Oh and another thing.  All the levels in Level 4 & 5 are postulate/
counter postulate.  So if one can get through Level 4 and any of the
8 situations, A & B, then they must be doing pretty good at handling
counter postulates and finally just kicking them out of the way with
the slightest of effort and attention is the final achievement of
TROM.  After all, games barriers are nothing but postulate/counter
postulates.  Likewise the walls in a maze all by themselves are
postulate/counter postulates and just stand there.  Will you use
force (overts) or intelligence and spiritual, Theta abilities to
navigate through Life.

p.s.:  This area of the 4 'Conditions of Existence' is one area that
Dennis short shrifted  and in doing so did not get all of the truth
into Level 4 & 5 of TROM.


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