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Martin,

You make all, excellent, well evaluated from all points of view, very accurate, 
well articulated points.

With emphasis on Solipsism.  

I had read about Solipsism  on, I think it was on IVy list a couple or few yrs 
ago. 



Now you know that "awareness" can be defined. 

:)


Thanks much,


David 






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> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:04:30 +0200
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Everything flow zero?
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> Hi David,
> First, here is another definition of awareness. "Awareness is the source of
> all perception!" 
> 
> Regarding "flow zero" - It is solipsism. (Theory that the self is all that
> you know to exist) 
> 
> In TROM we are dealing with conflicting postulates in our individual minds.
> The following from TROM describes the scene:
> 
> "The key to the resolution of the mind, then, lies in exercising the being
> in the discovery and creation of complementary postulates; and, transiently,
> in unraveling the tangled mass of conflicting postulates that his mind has
> become. The mind, being a repository of old games, which are postulates in
> conflict, has no defense against the application and re-injection of
> complementary postulates regarding the effects it contains. In short, we
> vanish the mind by progressively getting the being to create, and do
> exercises in, complementary and conflicting postulates; to create and
> experience overt and motivator overwhelms, play games, and generally bring
> back under his own determinism these four basic postulates - both as SD and
> PD - which go to make up the interchange we call life. Enroute he will
> discover, or re-discover, all there is to know about life; he will also
> discover his true nature as a spiritual being.
> 
>  Martin
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> On Behalf Of David M. Pelly
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 10:06 PM
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> Subject: [TROM1] Everything flow zero?
> The idea of everything being "flow zero" is in contradiction to the PFC.
> 
> 
> 
> If everything was of flow zero,
> 
> then there would not  be the  "overwhelm"  and "forced to" .......factors in
> the PFC.
> 
> And there would be no need for the PFC or even no need for TROM.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you are "forced" to___________________,  ( what ever the case is) 
> 
> (in a situation where you are overwhelmed and forced to know or not know) 
> 
> then it is not "flow zero".
> 
> 
> "Overwhelm" and "forced to know or not know" by others, are not flow zero.
> 
> 
> To say so,  is incongruent,   it is an oxymoron.
> 
> 
> : incongruent
> 
> incongruous; incompatible
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