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   1. Re: Need examples of the Postulates (Ludo Vermeulen)


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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 20:43:45 +0200
From: Ludo Vermeulen <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [TROM1] Need examples of the Postulates
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Hi David,

Today was a beautiful day, and I wanted to go for a walk enjoying the sun and the green. So I did. So it looks like I exerted my power of choice there. But in truth, where did that want come from? Did I decide I was going to want to go for a walk? In fact, before the want appeared, there was nothing. And out of nothing, a want appeared. And together with that want, an I appeared that seemingly did or chose the wanting. Same with the decision to actually go and the action taking place. Now with this understanding, a relief from all responsibility takes place, so that would be your practical use of it, although that is really not your or my choice.

Same with let's say an inner conflict. Thought and counter thought appear out of nothing. None of them are yours. Nothing needs to be solved about it. The solving will appear just as the conflict appeared, or not. And the I that arises together with the thoughts is as illusionary as the thoughts. It is just a thought that appears and disappears.

Whatever you will think or feel about what I'm saying, it will appear out of nothing, it is just life happening, it is no one's responsibility and it is just perfect and divine. It will have or not have it's imaginary place in the imaginary story of your imaginary life.

Me, I find myself contemplating this miracle a lot of the time, it is my daily inspiration. The miracle seems to be creating the experience of contemplating and enjoying it's own miracle. But none of it is anything more than an imaginary dream really, so this conversation never actually took place, and yet it seems totally real as an experience. And there's no responsibility in the whole thing, unless it's an imagined responsibility. Isn't that a miracle? :-)

Bye for now,

Ludo.

Op 16-mei-2014 om 17:00 heeft David Pelly <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven:

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Ludo,

I think you are only partly correct.


In part:


That is a pretty big leap or and stretch  of facts.

And not of any practical value, to the average person,

 except to quantum physicists.



Then:


What you are saying is that everything requires constant recreation in order to exist or persist.


I would say that is nonsense.

All you need for MEST to persist is a postulate for MEST to persist.


And that postulate is complex and consists of constant change.


You have to read several different cosmology theories or works to begin to get some insight into this subject.


I assume you have done some scientology and read the Pilots work.



To expand upon scn and the Pilot, I suggest Dr. Walter Russels work ( University of Science and Philosophy) ,


Oahspe,


and

the Urantia,


and


The Revelatorium to start with.


Search  them on line.



That is as per the formula for understanding as explained in "How to study a science", by Hubbard, in A new slant on life.


And in other places in scn.



David









On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Ludo Vermeulen <[email protected]> wrote:
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Hi Colleen,

A thought and an impuls has arisen to answer your question.

A thought, or even consciousness itself, disappears almost as soon as it arises. So in order for there to be an appearance of a universe or even an identity that persists through time, consciousness and the thought have to be renewed over and over again, moment after moment. So if you look at an apple and blink your eye, even not, there is absolutely nothing the same about the apple you saw in the beginning and the apple you saw the next moment. There is even nothing the same about the notion of "I" that arises now and the notion of "I" that arises now. The totality of consciousness, the whole universe and it's perception, appears now and dies now, and then reappears again, creating an illusion of persistence. In reality there is no universe and no you. The totality of it is totally new over and over again, moment after moment. The only reality is the no-thing that generates it mysteriously. Hope that helps "you".

Have a nice day :-)

"Ludo"


Op 3-mei-2014, om 04:53 heeft Colleen K. Peltomaa het volgende geschreven:

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From manual,

"Be Known

This is the creative postulate ? the postulate that brings the effect into existence. His Pan Determined postulate that goes with it at the other end of the comm line is ?know?. This twin postulate structure is still present even if the effect is only being created for the benefit of the creator; in this case he merely responds to his own PD postulate and knows his own creation.

Time is the postulate "Continue to be known", and is the postulate that introduces persistence into the creation. In games play there are many methods of ensuring persistence, so that others are not easily able to vanish a creation. The most basic method is the lie, which calls the creation something which it is not. Thus, the perceiver only views the lie, and is unable to vanish the original postulate, which remains hidden. Therefore, this late in the game very few things are what they appear to be, and illusions are rampant.

There are no screens associated with this postulate, but there are plenty of them to be encountered from the opposition postulate, "Mustn?t know" (See later in this section.)

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I am having difficulty coming up with live examples of the above. Would appreciate some help with this, thank you.





colleen


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