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While Dennis does mention the CDEI in the books he does not mention the emotional tone scale. The emotional tone scale was developed by LRH to guide pre-E-meter auditors in assessing the PC's progress in an incident. TROM does not need that or an e-meter to guide the solo auditor through an incident. Sincerely Pete Sent from my iPad > On Sep 6, 2014, at 10:03 AM, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hi to all. Yes, the work of Ken, has a > parallel with Trom. In the scale-tone > missing conservatism. my little one > oversight: Where Dennis lists the scale? > Thanks Pete. > Nic. > >> ----Messaggio originale---- >> Da: [email protected] >> Data: 5-set-2014 19.22 >> A: "TROM"<[email protected]> >> Ogg: [TROM1] Ken Ogger's Cosmic History >> >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> >> The Pilot Ken Ogger's wrote down his view of cosmic history which is > presented below. It dovetails nicely with TROM. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete >> >> >> SUPER SCIO #2 >> >> COSMIC HISTORY >> >> 1. INTRODUCTION >> >> We have come down through a long series of universes. All of the more >> advanced sources seem to be aware of this, most notably the Tibetan >> scriptures and L. Ron Hubbard's investigations of 1952. However, no >> one has ever provided a detailed description of the sequence or >> characteristics of these universes. If we have indeed fallen from a >> godlike state, then the universes themselves must follow some sort of >> a dwindling progression and the mechanics of that decay must reflect, >> on the whole, how we have come to be in the state that we are in. >> >> This document will attempt to sketch out the broad outlines and >> provide a context which will hopefully support further research. I >> cannot guarantee that all the information given here is exactly >> correct. The best I can do is to say that I think it comes reasonably >> close. But of one thing I am certain, the picture can be no less >> complex than that presented here. If I have erred, it is on the side >> of missing things rather than putting too much there. Nothing less >> would serve to explain the degree to which we have fallen. >> >> Before embarking on an actual discussion of the history, it is >> important to define my usage of the word "universe" because it is >> used in many sloppy ways in the field of metaphysics. >> >> By universe, I mean a complete system of space and time. And for this >> discussion, I mean specifically those large agreed upon universes in >> which we all have lived. >> >> There is not a one to one mapping between the points in space within >> one universe and those in another. A universe can have more than one >> 3 dimensional plane and can also have other 3 dimensional spaces >> (bubbles or pockets) tied to it. These are all considered to be part >> of the same universe because there is a mapping of points and there >> is a correspondence of time and there is a carry over of physical >> laws. But truly separate universes do not tie together in a direct >> manner and do not have identical laws. Note that you can setup >> transfer points between separate universes, but these are arbitrary >> points linked together without any correlation. >> >> The current universe is one of very strict physical laws and is best >> characterized as a highly mechanical MEST (Matter/ Energy/ Space/ >> Time) oriented creation. The immediately preceding universe was one >> of Magic where physical laws were not quite as solid. Just as the >> literature of science fiction hints at the flavor of our life in this >> universe, the literature of fantasy hints at the nature of the Magic >> universe. But even the magic universe was quite physical and highly >> structured in its own context. As we work backwards from this >> universe, we see that each preceding universe was slightly less solid >> and more conducive to thought until we reach the earliest ones where >> the Thetan (Spirit / that which thinks) is senior and the physical >> aspects are trivial things that can be modified by the merest whim. >> >> Let us now go all the way back and set the stage for the entire >> procession of universes. >> >> 2. IN THE BEGINNING >> >> Before anything exists, there can only be nothing, But the >> preternatural nothingness must have a potential, and that potential >> must be infinite because an infinity of creations has descended from >> it. If there had been no potential, then we would not exist, and if >> the potential had been limited, we would have ground to a halt long ago. >> >> The nothingness exists before all space and time, therefore it is >> unchanging and may be described as static. >> >> Matter and energy and any other possible forms can only exist within >> space and time and therefore are second order creations. Counting and >> the quantification of things are dependent on the existence of things >> which can be counted, therefore all mathematics and the very concept >> of quantification is a second order creation. And so the nothingness >> is above the concept of quantification and is neither few nor many, >> neither zero nor infinite, it is literally beyond counting. >> >> The nothingness has the potential for thought, but there is nothing >> to think about until something is created, therefore, the first >> thought and the first creation must be one and the same, for >> something must be conceived of to exist. Therefore, the process of >> thought in its ultimate form, is the process of creation. >> >> Of the four basic components of this universe, namely Matter, Energy, >> Space, and Time, only Space can be conceived of without reference to >> any of the other factors. Therefore, the first creation must be space >> rather than matter, energy, or time. >> >> IN THE BEGINNING, THE ZERO-INFINITE LIFE STATIC CONCEIVED OF SPACE. >> AND IN THE CONCEPT OF SPACE, IS THE CONCEPT OF SEPARATION. AND THE >> ONLY THING THERE WAS WHICH COULD BE SEPARATED WAS THE LIFE STATIC ITSELF. >> >> [At this point the first creation has occurred which Dennis labels "Be Known" > and this necessitates "Know" since the being must perceive that it has > created > something. Also the junior universe "to Create" comes into existence. Pete] >> >> But the basic life static which is the unchanging nothingness is >> senior to space time and therefore cannot be affected by this >> separation. It is not made less by it, and therefore it may again >> separate. And from the view of the basic nothingness, the separations >> cannot be before or after each other because it is indeed timeless, >> but from the lesser view of that which is separated, the separated >> almost statics can conceive that one separated before another and >> therefore we have time. >> >> And the lesser near-statics are also nothingness with the potential >> for infinite creation, but they have the experience of time and >> therefore the experience of what they have created. >> >> Once those who can conceive are separated from the basic nothingness, >> they then proceed to apply further separations to bring about the >> creation of existence. A positive and a negative can be pulled out of >> nothing and the net equation remains the same. 1 - 1 = 0 = 2 - 2 = 0 >> = 256 - 256 etc. The only difference between these is consideration >> and consideration is the product of thought. Infinite matter and >> energy may therefore be generated by thought alone. >> >> SPACE IS THE SEPARATION OF PARTICLES TIME IS THE SEPARATION OF EVENTS >> IDENTITY IS THE SEPARATION OF THOUGHT >> >> The interposition of distance is necessary for viewing or perceiving > anything. >> >> The interposition of time is necessary for emotion. There is no loss >> without time, nor is there feeling. >> >> [Dennis says that emotion is more related to separation in space with pain > occurring in too close contact followed by sexual sensation at close distance > followed by apathy, grief, fear, anger, antagonism, boredom, enthusiasm as > distance increases. And moving on to esthetics or beauty. Pete] >> >> The interposition of identity is necessary for consideration. Without >> identity, all thought is one which is a passive condition of cosmic >> allness. Therefore, to think about or consider thought, it is >> necessary to introduce at least a slight separation from all thought >> and therefor it is necessary to be an individual to some slight >> degree. Therefore, identity is necessary for self awareness. >> Furthermore, the Zero-Infinite Life Static is not a self aware unit, >> instead it is the sum total of all awareness that is or that might be >> (or might have been). Therefore, it does not judge or intervene, it just IS. >> >> [The mere fact of separation from source means that the created being has a > different point from which to view, considers itself to not be the created, > has > a beginning point in time and therefor has a different personality from the > creator. Pete] >> >> MATTER IS THE CONSIDERATION THAT SOMETHING IS THERE. ENERGY IS THE >> POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN. >> >> Since the basic nothingness is beyond all limitations of time and >> space, it may be considered as infinite and eternal from our >> time/space limited perspective. By its very nature, it will always >> exceed the highest orders of infinite creation that have been >> achieved and therefore will always demand the creation of even >> further infinities of somethingness to balance the nothingness. >> Therefore, the scope of creation is limitless and eternal. Since the >> nothingness is always with us, we do not lack for it. Our only lack >> is for the somethingnesses (those things which are not nothing) which >> will always fall short of completely balancing the nothingness. >> >> The self aware near-statics which we will call Thetans (thought >> units) fulfill themselves by an ongoing process of creation. Only >> when this creative process is blocked or stifled do they become miserable. >> >> [Thus Repair of Importance is a valuable exercise to the beings abilities. > Pete] >> >> Furthermore, the separation itself is only a matter of consideration. >> The thought beings are still part of the original static and >> therefore have no need to rejoin it since they never really left it >> in the first place. >> >> [So timebreaking is the means whereby individuals can undo any current state > and return to any former state. Pete] >> >> The ultimate state of these beings is to be an >> operating manifestation of the ultimate static and project an >> infinity of creation to balance the nothingness. All lesser states >> are therefore at least slightly unpleasant but are maintained in the >> hope of future creation. >> >> 3. THE DANCE OF CREATION >> >> At the highest levels, the self-aware life statics participate in a >> dance of infinite creation. Here, everything that can be conceived of >> is created, exchanged, and experienced. Here we have an infinity of >> universes in constant flux, varying even in the number of dimensions >> used by each universe. At this level, the individual is himself near >> infinite, creating and experiencing multiple universes simultaneously >> and projecting an infinity of personalities, and yet the individual >> is still individual and separate and distinct from the other >> individuals who also participate in the dance of creation. And the >> flux between these individuals is the dance and is the infinity of creation. >> >> This level is the co-existence of static and here each individual is, >> to all intents and purposes, God. And the only compelling purpose of >> it all is to continue to add to the richness of creation. And this >> might well be termed divine and infinite bliss. It is a nirvana, but >> a nirvana of infinite somethingness rather than nothingness. >> >> But given an infinity of infinities to fill, it becomes mandatory to >> leave no stone unturned in the search for yet more new and varied >> creations. In pursuit of this, there is the idea that a new being, >> freshly separated from the zero-infinite life static, might conceive >> of new systems of creation, different from those which are already in >> existence. And so new beings were indeed separated out and did add >> greatly to the richness of creation. >> >> But the most original creations would stem from beings who were >> isolated from the existing order and were not tainted by exposure to >> what the older beings had created. And so there is the concept of >> isolating a new crowd of individuals within a sort of womb where they >> can develop on their own. >> >> We are now in such a womb, and the entire series of universes that we >> have built and inhabited are in this womb. When we have finished our >> development, we will exit the womb and carry our new systems of >> creation with us into the dance and begin an infinitely interesting >> exchange of mockups with the older beings. And someday, eons hence, >> when we have milked dry every variation of our own systems, and the >> systems of the older beings, and the endless variations of >> intermixing the systems, then we will eagerly await the birth of yet >> another crop of new beings who will bring forth their own set of wonders. >> >> No matter how miserable you might be today, the duration of the >> misery is short in comparison with eternal bliss. When you have >> achieved the ultimate godlike state, you will consider the pains of >> birth a small price to have paid for it. >> >> [Here Ken is not offering any way to change current conditions or relieve any > upsets. A curious position to take for an Auditor. Pete ] >> >> 4. THE WOMB >> >> How is it possible to enclose a group of godlike beings and prevent >> them from experiencing the vast and interesting body of existing >> creations? How can you control someone whose merest whim has the >> power to create and destroy universes? >> >> Initially, since you are dealing with innocent new beings, you can >> distract them with an interesting object and channel their attention >> in the direction that you desire. But this does not work for very >> long, and soon they will begin to look around and be attracted by the >> fascinating works of the older beings. And with that, the freshness >> of new unbiased creation would be lost. So something further is needed. >> >> But a god can only trap or limit himself, and at most, he can be >> aided by the deception and trickery of others. But even in this, the >> older beings must not be directly involved or they will eventually >> contaminate the new crowd. >> >> And so the new group of beings must be tricked into conflict among >> themselves and into building traps for each other. And each one is >> trapped, not so much by the traps that others laid for him, but by >> the traps that he laid for others for sooner or later, he will forget >> one of his own traps and fall into it by mistake. >> >> The general plan is that the new beings will dig themselves into a >> trap of their own devising. And will sink deeper and deeper into it >> and eventually will become the effect of their own creation and even >> forget who they are and how they built the trap in the first place. >> But in so doing, they will evolve a new system of creation which will >> be the anatomy of the trap. And eventually, they will begin to dig >> themselves out, which will require regaining control over the >> entirety of their creations. >> >> [Ahh. Now we are back to TROM and regaining control of our minds. Pete] >> >> We lie now at the bottom of such a trap, and it might seem that we >> could never create even a single atom of the physical universe around >> us. But these abilities will return as we dig ourselves out. And when >> we exit the womb, each of us will not only have all of the rich and >> interesting details of Earth at our fingertips, but we will also have >> the details of the Star Wars like physical universe and the Magic >> universe, and the numerous universes that came before. We will bring >> all of this out into the greater society of beings and our rewards >> will be great. It has been a hard road and will continue to be rough >> for awhile, but it has worked before and it is the only way to >> develop in true isolation. >> >> [I cringe at the idea of needing "rewards" from others. I can create anything > I want. Pete] >> >> And the older beings will not and cannot intervene. We must dig >> ourselves out, for it is this which will give us the power over these >> creations of ours. If the older beings were to step in and rescue us, >> so to speak, by pulling us out of this trap, they would be stealing >> from us our richly deserved reward. These are our creations and it is >> for us to take command over them. >> >> We have been totally isolated for a long time. There was only one >> external intervention at the very beginning. This was the absolute >> minimum possible and there have been no others although we have >> frequently pretended to each other that we were older or higher >> beings and have even sometimes imitated the actual intervention with >> the intent of bedeviling and tricking each other. >> >> This one and only bit of external interference consisted of >> presenting us with a single ultra-complex object which would >> prejudice us towards conflict and entrapment. This object was the >> Jewel of Knowledge. >> >> >> Ken goes on to describe the Jewel of Knowledge from here. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
