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Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: lotus-rising <[email protected]> > Date: October 7, 2014 at 10:56:23 AM PDT > To: Pete Mclaughlin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM > > Hi Pete, > > Thanks for your mail. > > What you say about LRH I have also concluded, there is so much to sift > through and then there are so many forms of interpretation of the tech. When > I came across TROM I understood what Dennis was talking about immediately. > And I could absorb it and know what was needed to follow to get the result. I > agree that scientology is flawed in that sense, it promises a lot, but like > other things I have studied including Buddhism, Christianity, and A Course In > Miracles they all have something not quite right about them. ACIM is a road > to confusion I would say, having used it when I was holding on to my sanity > it seemed a cure foe the suffering of my mind. But as you stabilise you start > to see that it's an unworkable system. > > I recall the first thing that got my attention with LRH and when I met a > scientologist was the Being and the power one had, and how we had become > degraded of our beauty and splender through games playing. I knew that when I > read it. I always knew the world was a weird and conflicting place, from a > child in knew much of what I was told and made to believe was BS! I studied > ACIM as I didn't ant to confront my own responsibility fully, so having God > or Jesus to shift things too was a good game for me, along with millions of > others. I know want that responsibility and I want to know the way out so I > can make my own choices, not have them made for me. When I came across how > scientology uses clay to work with people to understand, this really clicked > for me. It unlocked a whole universe that I am only now starting to build and > explore. I have spent 15 years learning reiki, shamanism, other healing > systems, I am also an interfaith minister and all this made very little long > lasting difference to my life. I was up and down like a yo yo. I came across > scientology four years ago, and was fortunate to have access to a former > staff member for a year and I absorbed what I could and questioned > everything. I see now, that without that time I would maybe still be > stumbling around, blaming everything else for my life. I'm no expert on > scientology, and I agree that it's a vast subject, but I have taken enough to > keep ow when I saw TROM ah ha this is what I've been looking for. > > I ask about the other courses as I am dyslexic, and know that there are > programs that LRH devised 4G help with other areas of life. So thanks for > your reply on that. I would love to see a church of TROM😊, maybe some online > site where like minded people could communicate fully and get this work the > profile it deserves, but I also believe that those who want the truth will > find it. TROM is not that know, yet I found it without looking intentionally > for it. > > I wanted to run this past you, that I found last night. Konchok Penday has > something called UCP, it's very similar to TROM. I find the practice easier > than the time breaking of TROM. I struggle a bit with taking people of the > past and putting them into PT with an object. I tried the UCP and it worked > great. Step 1 & 2 are like the RI, and step 3 & 4 would be the time > breaking. Can this be used in place of the time breaking of TROM as an > adjustment? > > This is the link > http://www.universalconsciouspractice.bravepages.com/N-LIGHTENMENT%20NOW!.htm > > I'm not sure that I have the full information of TROM. You say there are six > books, I have only one, that is the pdf! > > Best wishes > Dru > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Pete Mclaughlin <[email protected]> > Date:06/10/2014 21:23 (GMT+00:00) > To: Dru Galbraith <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM > > Hi Dru > Dennis states that all of Scientology can be explained and understood by > studying TROM but that much of TROM cannot be understood using Scientology > principles. > > I have found this to be true. > > Also LRH uses 25 million words to teach Scientology. It takes years to wade > through all the material so as to understand and apply Scientology, while all > of TROM is fully covered in 6 books with the book 06 the TROM Therapy manual > being a summary of the practical so just a repeat of the practical aspects of > the first 6 books. > > The beauty of TROM is it consists of two processes, Repair of Importance and > Timebreaking. Levels 2, 3, 4 and 5 are just different ways to find stuff to > Process by timebreaking. Scientology has many many process as you can see by > their Bridge or Grade Levels chart. > > Feel free to study anything that interests you on the subject of the mind and > healing. There is no Church of TROM to say you can't. I gave up on > Scientology because it was to complicated and never says "At this point you > have handled the mind." TROM says that at the end of level 5 you have handled > everything. > > Sincerely > Pete > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 6, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dru Galbraith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> I wanted to ask you about something after I read what Coleen sent out about >> non scientologists. I wouldn't call myself one as I have not gone through >> the processes and training to be one. I read some of LRH'S work, and >> although I found some of it interesting I certainly would not say it was a >> complete way, but there is a kind of map that has clues, and it's down to >> each one of us to continue the work. From what Coleen has written I am >> assuming that , out are former COS? I know that Dennis served until >> retirement, but I am not clear how TROM compares with Scientology. I read >> that scientology could be in TROM, but TROM was not in scientology? >> >> I have looked at the volunteer ministers course online that I started, then >> read something negative and stopped. I am not clear if thee is anything >> there that would go with TROM, or I was correct to walk away from it. I >> would appreciate any clarification on this confusion I seem to be in. >> >> Regards >> Dru >> >> Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:41:39 -0700 >> To: [email protected] >> >> Hi Dru >> In 06 the TROM Therapy Manual I put the ohm meter reading for the TA >> settings of 1 through 6.5. These are in the section titled The E-Meter. >> Clear TA for a male is 3.0 or 12,500 ohms a female is TA 2.0 or 5000 ohms. >> While an e-meter is needed for reading needle movements a cheap ohm meter is >> sufficient to take TA readings. >> >> The Amazon.com site will list both the hard copy and kindle versions as >> options for purchase for each title. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Oct 1, 2014, at 8:18 AM, lotus-rising <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> Thanks for your reply. I was asking in case there was a problem with the >> RI, I am okay running these currently, but thanks for the information if >> needed. >> I am not clear about what TA at level 2 and 3 are? >> >> Thank you for explaining about the love relationships. Our main game was >> sex, it's what made us feel closest to each other. But the other games we >> played were not the highest and that's where it went askew, both coming >> from dysfunctional families, there was too much in the bank to contend with. >> I learned a lot about relationships, and she was a good mirror for me to >> take full responsibility for my games condition. >> >> Okay that's great news about the book. Is the hard copy available on amazon >> too? You are the publisher of this. I think it only fair that you get the >> money as you are doing the work. >> >> Warm wishes >> Dru >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Samsung tablet >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Pete Mclaughlin <[email protected]> >> Date:01/10/2014 15:51 (GMT+00:00) >> To: Dru Galbraith <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM >> >> Hi Dru >> >> If you are struggling with creative RI you may need to do some physical RI. >> The rub stretch and yawn approach works for me. The end phenomena of RI is >> a TA at 2.0 for a female or 3.0 for a male and feeling happy and fully in >> the present moment. >> >> Love is co creating reality with another. Conversations about subjects of >> mutual interest while establishing what you agree on concerning that subject >> is a loving activity. Playing games you both enjoy for fun is a loving >> activity. Sex can be a game played for mutual enjoyment but it is only one >> activity for lovers to engage in. There are many others that will build a >> loving relationship. >> >> The kindle books are currently available at Amazon.com and the hard copy >> books will be available in a couple of weeks. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Oct 1, 2014, at 3:43 AM, Dru Galbraith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> I am following up to check that you received my email below? >> >> Regards >> Dru >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:57:51 +0100 >> Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> OKay thanks for that advice. By this you mean I am able to create an >> importance, but it's just flat? Do I understand correctly, that if you are >> struggling you need to continue with them? >> >> Yes I got that about level two. I have only run two sessions but already >> feel that the charge has lessened with the ex partner. I read something >> yesterday by a man who said that love is not enough, that's why it's called >> a relationship, not a love ship, if you can't relate this partnership will >> sink. I think this ties in with the reality part of the ARC that Ron spoke >> about. I found that this made sense to me. I can love her, but i am not >> compelled to, having studied ACIM, this is called the sane choice, or the >> right mind. Without all the compulsions, the Being is love, but compulsion >> clouds that, I will never live with her or have her in my life physically, >> and this actually stops the compulsive thoughts. Of course i will continue >> untill is nulled. I can be at peace with that. Trying to hold the two views >> was tiring. I just got a pendulum and I was asking questions, it read that >> I will never see her again in this life, and she still loved me and thought >> of me. She always said she wanted me in her life, but I demanded it was as >> lovers or nothing. I see that was my compulsive state of games. >> >> The kindle sounds great. Will you be making a hard copy? I know it's cheaper >> and easier to make downloads, but there is something about having a physical >> copy you can touch, technology is great, but I still like a real book. >> >> Okay thank you for the that about the levels, five years is not that long. I >> knew a guy that studied ACIM for five years and he said he was more confused >> then when he started. I would imagine it's very individual too, how deep >> your game playing is and how willing you are to enter and confront it? >> >> Thanks for your guidance, >> >> KeepTroming >> >> Dru >> >> >> >> Sent from Samsung tablet >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Pete Mclaughlin <[email protected]> >> Date:26/09/2014 16:24 (GMT+00:00) >> To: Dru Galbraith <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM >> >> Hi Dru >> You are doing excellently. The time you spend per day is whatever is >> comfortable for you. RI is a creative process so can be run as much as you >> like. As long as it is interesting and producing changes it still needs to >> be run. When it gets boring your need for importance is satisfied and you >> can end off for a while. >> >> Things getting foggy is definitely a change so you have more to do on level >> 2 persons. >> >> I have set up the Amazon account to sell the kindle version of the books. In >> a week or two the print version will be listed with the kindle version. >> Proceeds from these sales will go to maintaining the TROMhelp.com website. >> So I hope everyone will buy lots of books. >> In the meantime I am fascinated by this subject so am happy to do the work >> of putting it up where everyone can find it. >> >> Having worked on TROM for 5 years now I can tell you that it will take >> multiple re- reads of the books before you are familiar enough with the >> details of level 5 in order to understand it. However, you do not need to >> understand level 5 in order to do RI or differences and similarities or even >> timebreaking. Keep doing the auditing and read the books several times >> through so that by the time you get to levels 4 and 5 you will understand >> them and be able to apply the understanding to auditing level 4 and 5. >> >> Keep on TROMing >> Pete >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Dru Galbraith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> I am running through level 2, and am finding the RI's very enjoyable. >> I wanted to check the time factor though, running the RI's at the start and >> finish the session is running between 90-120 minutes. >> I saw that others are spending an hour a day on their sessions! >> I am able to do the first part of level two, but when the person comes in, >> things get a bit foggy and other images start to bleed into the event. >> I'm assuming this is normal as the compulsion is still strong? >> >> Regards >> Dru >> >> P.s I read that you run the site at your own expense, I wanted to thank you >> for doing this, as I find the site very helpful and I use the mp3 for the >> commands, I really like TROM, I'm not sure that I fully understand it, but >> understand enough to do it. >> >> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:38:24 +0100 >> Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> Okay thanks, I will continue! >> >> Regards >> Dru >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Samsung tablet >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Pete Mclaughlin >> Date:18/09/2014 08:18 (GMT+00:00) >> To: Dru Galbraith >> Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM >> >> Hi Dru >> From your statements you are still getting change by working this issue so >> continue. >> >> Sincerely >> >> Pete >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Dru Galbraith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> Thank you for the clarification. >> >> I have another personal question, I'm not clear how I send questions to the >> community, so that's why I'm directing my communications to you! I am happy >> for this to be shared with the community! >> Something I have been experiencing is thoughts of a previous partner. The >> relationship was intense, and ended in quite a messy way, she has since got >> married, so the chapter is over, I have been out with another woman since >> too. What is curious is that she was on my mind quite strongly, then I met >> this other girl, and this seemed to vanish her from my mind. When I ended >> the second relationship, the first woman would start to be on my mind. >> Having read TROM it seems that this is due to some kind of compulsive game, >> as changing the body only worked temporarily. I recently had a sexual dream >> of the first woman, but the thoughts seem to oscillate between affinity and >> anger and blame. When I ran level 2 I touched great anger toward her. When >> I saw her Facebook profile yesterday, I had a charge, but later I was able >> to be okay and be glad she had found happiness. The relationship is over,but >> I'm not sure why I dream and think of her? I am working with the level and >> am using a lot of RI with it, but wondered if you have any thoughts on this >> that that I may be missing? >> >> Kind wishes >> Dru >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Level 2 TROM >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:44:07 -0700 >> To: [email protected] >> >> Hi Dru >> >> Level two part 1 is to find a scene in your past and pick an object in that >> scene and compare that object to an object that you can see in present time. >> Part 2 is to find a past scene and select a person in that past scene and >> compare that person to a person or object that you can see in present time. >> >> The exercise is to bring the past object or person into present time. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:42 AM, Dru Galbraith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> I have a quick question, I have run through the RI's several times and after >> having charge on the first run through which included burning at the back of >> my neck and down my spine, the ones after have been really good and I have >> enjoyed doing them. I have now started to run run level 2 of TROM, in the >> second part which is used on people from your past, am I still taking an >> object from the scene and bringing it into PT? I understand that by working >> with the objects it breaks up the charge with the person, is that correct? >> >> Best wishes >> Dru >> >> > Subject: Welcome to TROM >> > From: [email protected] >> > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:56:00 -0700 >> > To: [email protected] >> > >> > Hi >> > Initially you will have supervised email on this list. If you will email a >> > short introduction stating what brought you to TROM I will give you >> > unrestricted access to mail to the list. >> > >> > There is an archive of past posts at >> > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom. It would be good to look >> > through these old emails as many interesting questions have been discussed >> > in the past. >> > >> > The web site www.tromhelp.com has all of the books, recordings and now the >> > Repair of Importance processes that you can download for free to start >> > doing TROM immediately. All materials on that site are in the public >> > domain or available with the authors permission. >> > >> > The TROM books are now available at Amazon with this web address >> > http://www.amazon.com/Dennis-Stephens/e/B00H4C0RS2/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1 >> > >> > Be sure to ask questions. There are many talented people on the mailing >> > list who will respond if someone asks a question. >> > >> > Keep on TROMing >> > >> > Pete mclaughlin >> > List moderator >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPad
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