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Wow so much to answer back about! Hi Colleen.
Your experience with RI sounds to be so expanded. What this tells me
is that you are really getting into how important one's importances
can be to one's self. This is really great for in your RI sessions,
you are beginning to encounter and ponder the same questions I did
while doing and completing Level 5. In fact to this day I am
constantly doing RI every moment that I have a consideration. I then
consider the importance itself and with that evaluation process wind
up with all kinds phenomena occurring. Among those phenomena are
valences, past, present and future. Not only my valences or valences
in my data bank but also those of others. I especially see other's
valences more clearly, more definitively. In seeing such I have a
much better in-depth understanding and acceptance of others.
From the level of importances, I can also see the reasons, desires
and justifications for specific importances as they are categorized
and placed in a ranking one against the other which brings forth a
further deepening of understanding of myself and others. Needless to
say this whole package brought about by delving into my personal
importances, their what, whys and wherefores really expands my
affinity and love for all. In the process it really decreases and
eliminates many many stuck compulsions, desires, biases, prejudices
and reasons to be or not be cause which further eliminates games
mechanisms. Ironically it really places me more at cause. The past
silly, stupid, ignorant reasons for the placement of importances are
continually falling away and I am becoming more and more free. More
free, moment by moment as I consider. In fact, every moment is truly
new and a new experience.
One really silly side note is that my son is saying that my memory is
going bad because I don't see or do things the same way every time.
Everything has its sense of newness to me. A real adventure you
might say.
Additional note to a later post: I very much get into "learning
about my mind" and about how RI runs out stuck significances.
Definitely one learns about their mind as they pull importances apart
and get down to the reasoning behind them and significances are just
a ranking that one places on things as an importance is placed on
things.
See notes below.
Paul, keep on TROMming
On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Colleen K. Peltomaa wrote:
Paul, thank you for some more encouragement to continue. I have to
say I've had some of the best education on the planet when it comes
to understanding the being and the mind, and that education does me
well when I am in a session, such as spotting valences, which is
what happened in today's very long RI.
As I said, I had been detecting some sadness so I decided to RI the
subject of "The Beautiful Sadness of it All". It started out very
well, very good sensations, lots of change up and insights
occurring, lots of fun, very interesting, some charge coming off
too. But I noticed I was not doing my usual big yawns and I
thought that was interesting.
This Ri took about 4 hours (I know you're going, "Gollee!").
Halfway through I spotted a valence and felt a bit cheated -- that
this valence had been doing the first half of the RI. I've had a
whole lot of whole track recall so I recognized this as an old
identity in an old game -- still active. I kept doing the same
RI that I started out with and this identity faded away and another
one showed up and then that faded away and then a senior archetype
I have worked on previously came into view.
Because of the time factor (I had promised to wash and trim the
dog) I ended off with the senior archetype no longer a factor.
When I came back and started running it again there were the usual
typical huge yawns. Why was that? Why was it when I was
running the RI out of valence there were no yawns and once those
got resolved there were lots of yawns? I don't have the answer
for that yet.
What I found happening is a lot hilarity coming on rather than
yawns. May have to do with something called 'boil-off' vs. stupid
stuff as in my case and hilarity would ensue. Laughs did not totally
replace the other. It may have to do with whether it had to do with
an engramic event with pain and unconsciousness or some kind of
aberated decision in the past.
MIND OVER MATTER!
I learned this decades ago. If you don't mind ... It doesn't
matter. Much like 'of most important' or 'of no importance'. And of
course after a while, as you mentioned in an earlier post, I ran 'not
important' which is the same as your 'no importance'. After running
importances I realized I could run 'not importances', the same as no
importances. Then too, I ran things that were important as not
important and things that were not important as important. That
really got wild. Things went from the very serious, the sublime to
'so what' and I found out my reasons for 'serious' and found that I
could change importances at will. After Level 5, I continued with RI
and things really went to what was really important and I understood
that, any and all importances were what I put there and I achieved
'Freedom of Importances'. Boy o boy did 'freedom of' really ensue
after that. Yes, once the compulsions of the mind were gone, there
was still a lot of work to do to fully bring under my control my
considerations of considerations and 'thinking' went out the window
into the ditch to never be retrieved again.
RI not only keys out everything a compulsive mind could have
stacked in it, but it also gives insights and exposes game
strategies, invaluable for helping one to decide that's not a cool
game to play anymore. It ensures that once a person starts
timebreaking they are going to be doing it in valence.
"In Valence" means as themself, in their own identity. I think
most Scientologists might have a hard time committing to doing RI
as long as it takes -- it was never part of their training.
I would be interested in seeing how someone who is "Clear" might
run RI. I'm starting to think that one could go "Clear" on RI
alone -- plus reading all the materials one can get about the mind
from Dennis and some of Hubbard's basic stuff.
I'm a Clear and my runs had and have a similarity to yours. (I say
'have' because RI is a natural, happens all the time function/
action) I consider that with TROM and then doing RI to 'Freedom from
Importances', one will become a permanent Clear for one can actually
get a handle and be cause over any and all considerations especially
with 'thinking' forever left by the road side. This is something LRH
never conceived of. I can also see and have experienced how OT is
just a matter of being Clear, staying Clear and living life with
unrestricted, uncoerced in any form, self chosen importances,
importances whether one exists as a body, a spirit or both. The
'mind' has become a non-sequitur and is just a name, a metaphor for
the action of considering where one causatively assigns to the realm
of 'not important/not serious' habitual actions for a body or actions
for one's character, actions which can easily be changed at a whim, a
consideration. Maybe this can also be labeled 'Freedom of
Considerations' and 'Freedom of Significances'. One's ability to
consider or more appropriately one's inability to consider can easily
be the chains or the prison one operates from and within. The
highlight here is ... these RI items are not subconscious engrams.
I can't tell you how many times doing RI I get to a viewpoint where
I see how I chose to go to the effect of the To Know matrix, what I
now call "The Great Wall of Confusion". Or I get a very causative
viewpoint and wonder how I'm going to take responsibility for all
of it. Scientologists were drummed in on taking responsibility, lol.
Responsibility ... just realize and know that you created it and can
change or uncreate it at will, that's all. You might also run
'responsibility, important' or 'no responsibility important'.
Something like that. There is no specific duty, action or actions
that go with responsibility.
Sometimes I get a glimpse into a non-duality experience and I start
to cognite on what Dennis meant when he said "...eternal
bliss". All of this as a product of doing RI.
Yes, I know I need to get onto the core practice of timebreaking
and I'm looking forward to when the RI won't take up all of the
allotted session time, as I expect that to happen. I think there
will be a breakthrough for me.
Like I've said, I've had some very good teachers and good advisors
along the way, and doors to my case were opened with the extensive
whole track recall. I KNOW that all my wholetrack was a
dramatization of some really intense "Incident One" type of event.
It always feels like a wall with me the creation on one side of it
and I can only guess "what?" on the other side, and I'm not happy
about it. And I've brought that all the way forward with me and it
is here right now ready for a final viewing.
What I will be once I take that apart, I don't know 100 percent,
except the little Dennis says about it.
colleen
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