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Subject:
TROM: Replay B20
Date:
Fri, 01 May 1998 13:34:27 +0200
From:
Antony Phillips <i...@post8.tele.dk>
Organization:
International Viewpoints
To:
tro...@newciv.org
Short this time. We had quite a bit of traffic in the beginning of the
week (I got 13). My purpose in sending replays is merely that there
should be something relevant on the list. Far better with present time
discoveries, comments, questions.
Hi,
Ant (trom-l admin).
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Msg : 188 of 289 Rcv Pvt K/s Scn
From : Tron Enger 236/174.10 Fri 21 Jul 95
01:21
To : Bill Maier <ci...@ix.netcom.com> Fri 21 Jul 95
07:32
Subj : Re: Level 1
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Apparently-to: a...@jacome.ping.dk
From: Tron Enger <tr...@oslonett.no>
Subject: Re: Level 1
At 16:05 20.07.95 -0700, Bill Maier wrote:
>You wrote:
>>
>>At 18:06 19.07.95 -0700, Bill Maier wrote:
>>>Andreas,
>>>
>>>One other thought occurred to me. Did you ever get any change
>>>from the RI process? In other words, did you pass the test
>>>Stephens set for beginning level 2?
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>
>>I would like to comment on that too!
>>When I ran RI, I got VERY much change. That process was in fact
>processing
>>for me. I have had a lot of solo auditing with Balancing or Personal
>>Integrity, but had a huge lack of RI. I could run RI only for four or
>five
>>commands when I had my EP. I ran RI daily for abt one month. Had very
>good
>>gains.
>>
>>BTW, I would like to thank you both for communicating.
>>It has made me concider to take up TROM again....
>>
>>Tron Enger
>>
>>
>> http://www.oslonett.no/home/trone/
>>
>>
>
>The first time I ran RI (as part of the Level 1 test) I ended up
>running it for several hours before it flattened out. I had
>excellent gain during that time.
>
Wonderful!
When I look back, I didn't run it until it flattened out.
I ran it to EP. Should be good enough...:-)
>If you decide to take up TROM again, let us know how it goes.
>
I will.
Strange, I thought my reply to you was going to go through trom-l?
Apparently it didn't?
This one will for sure....
Tron
>Bill
>
>
http://www.oslonett.no/home/trone/
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Msg : 191 of 289 Rcv Pvt K/s Scn
From : Bill Maier 236/174.10 Mon 31 Jul 95
13:00
To : tro...@netcom.com Fri 04 Aug 95
19:56
Subj : Timebreaking BT pictures
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Apparently-to: a...@jacome.ping.dk
From: ci...@ix.netcom.com (Bill Maier )
Subject: Timebreaking BT pictures
I had an interesting experience while running Level 4 this
evening. I was running "forcing to be known", and Timebreaking
quite a few different pictures that came up when I put out that
thought. At one point a picture came up, very clearly, of a
man on a stage. I went through the Timebreak process on it,
but it didn't really change much. Normally the picture tends
to change as charge is blown off, and as I Timebreak further
the postulates holding the picture in place appear. With this
picture, however, nothing much happened. After working with it
for some time I did not see any change occurring so I just
moved on.
Later in the session the same picture appeared again in
response to the "forcing to be known" postulate. As I looked
at it I realized that this picture was not mine, but was being
put there by a BT. No wonder it wouldn't Timebreak! Once I
recognized this I was able to move on and complete the session
on other pictures.
Has anyone out there had similar experiences? It appears to me
that BT pictures will not resolve with TROM. The handling of
entities seems better suited for NOTs or Excalibur or perhaps
an OT III Incident 2 approach.
Bill
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