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Thanks Colleen for the answers,
I got interested in the subject mainly not for the
purpose of cleansing. But rather in the context
of "eating light". A very controversial subject.
You may immediately grasp why that is.
The "need" (pretense of need) to eat solid food in order
to survive as an organism is of course the ultimate
push-button for control and enslavement of a body-bound
species. That is why a controlled food-supply industry
is mandatory for the proponents of a new kind of world
order (I sure do not want to go into that at length here
and now).
So anything related to "light eating" will be ridiculed
and/or labeled as dangerous.
Scientists and Doctors tell us that taking up energy in
photon-form is physically impossible by the human organism.
Cases of people who can do that trick are "debunked" as frauds.
May that be either way, as anybody here can see from things
I wrote I'm not a stranger to science. But still I do not
rule out the possibility that humans can survive without
food for a as long period of time as they want.
(What a dangerous thought - heresy in Monsanto's ears ;-)
The food chain is indeed a very long and complicated chain of
vias (the more vias one puts along a line, the more valuable
the line gets ... ha ha).
All the energy of fossil origin plus the regenerative biological
mass there is on the planet comes eventually from our sun.
It is the "primitive" plants which have the ability to convert
sunlight into mass by means of assimilation. The mass is condensed
sunlight or stored energy.
The next step is that animals (including humans) eat the plants
in order to convert them back into energy or body substance (meat).
(In between this whole processing-chain large profits are made.
A gigantic industry is formed around the whole complex. It is not
only about production, manipulation and distribution of food. Think
of commercialized "solutions" to overweight, underweight, ... a
multitude of cults can be created around the core business there.
Fascinating, really.)
Well, I see not why it should be out of reach to shortcut this
chain by direct intake of sunlight.
I can not do it right now. Ha ha, of course I postulated right now
- in making that statement right bow - that it is the very fact
established right now. (Those are the postulates that _always_
seem to stick ;-).
So I cancel the above statement herewith and reformulate:
... hmmm, I think I'm getting hungry (it's 2PM) and I did not
bother to take breakfast ... the reformulation of the postulate
must wait a little longer ;-)
I keep you posted
Robin
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Hello, Robin,
There is enough on the internet re dryfasting to get one started for
even a
few days. I did absolutely no water nor food for 13 days and the only
reason I stopped was because I stopped pee'ing and my mouth was getting
very dry and my loved ones were starting to get concerned about me, and
my
mind was getting a bit noisy about the dry mouth (I think it was mental
though). The body was starting to address more deeply the nerves and that
was also quite uncomfortable mentally and I am encouraged that another
dryfast will further address the nerves.
I have been on a largely fruit diet previously so perhaps that made it
easier, PLUS, as I said the sudden clearing out of all my past with my
parents re covert game strategies (Dennis' tech made doable): a
conscience
kicked in hard on me and dryfasting was the ethical thing to do.
There is a point when one stops relying upon knowledge or cleverness and
the Body Intelligence returns.
Dennis did say (and it makes a lot of sense) that 99% of covert game
strategies are seeded in childhood. I have no attention now on my past
with
my parents... and then I began the dryfast.
My TROM sessions are very different now, due to BOTH factors.
Please take care of your brain!!!
colleen
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Hi Pete
<<If you point out to him what he is doing that is insane he will say of
course he is doing that and he must continue to do it exactly that way
or
his whole world will collapse.
The TRUTH will not set him free because he cannot look at it.
Could Hitler stop killing Jews? No he could not as it was part of the
beliefs system that brought him to power in Germany that he must do
something about the Jewish problem.
I agree with you if somebody tries to *convince* Hitler about the
insanity
of his crimes.
However, if (just IF) Hitler started a practice with TROM, he would be a
better man at certain point of level 5.
In this case, all of us (Colleen with the Queen, you with the tax man,
and
I with my mom) were at the point of view of another person, putting
there a
pan-postulate to break the other person's game.
In such case the person does not expect such interference, and probably
will consider the pan-postulate as a new thought of his own.
And if the pan-postulate is just the truth about something in his game,
he
probably will enjoy the truth as an insight and it is possible to
discharged his game and then take new (and good) decisions with new
behaviors, like the tax man and my mom.
Does it make sense?
Leoncio
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Hi everybody, Robin here
I want to go back on the time-track of this list a bit.
Not long ago it was that Alessandro posted that rather
interesting incident he had in the days of his military
service. You remember, Alessandro was approached and harassed
by two guys in the new barrack.
The interesting part of it is that a multitude of possible
handling of the situation are conceivable.
Let's do a quick recap of some facts from Alessandro's account:
The context he describes is one we have seen before in accounts
of "the stranger coming into that hillbilly village somewhere
in nowhere-land, being suspiciously gazed upon with a good bit
of hostility by the village-community" or the young kid happen
to move into that other town being "the new kid in the block"
now.
Usually the newcomers have to go through some rituals of
initiation first, before they will be accepted, or granted some
respect.
It is all about establishing and/or creating/re-creating (making
known) what the pecking-order is or will be.
In Alessandro's case the two guys were rather kind and already
announced beforehand what their game is and thus establishing
some rules. They were saying: "Let's see how strong you are."
(They did not say: "Ok, lets beat him up!" or even more grave:
"We're going to kill you now!". In that case Alessandro's solution
would - my qualified guess - most likely have lead to severe damage.
It would be a totally different game-setup, based on other game
targets, different set of rules a.s.o. corollary calling for a
different game strategy)
Never the less, in the situation Alessandro was in, he did the
right thing. It does not appear to be the obvious at a first glance.
But look, what they actually said to him is: "Come on friend, let's
do the initiation ritual and see what your place in the pecking-
order is." Alessandro intuitively agreed immediately with their
pan-determined postulate and showed them where he thought his
rightful place is. In other words he acted out the complementary
script to the two guy's script. (Those two were of course only
the representants of that barrack-community. The community wanted
to know, not necessarily the two guys.)
In doing that, Alessandro made everyone win in that little drama.
They had not been after a fight, they just wanted to know where
to place him in their small societal system. No one was hurt, all
questions asked and all answers were given.
I do not know if Alessandro had any conscious or theoretical knowledge
in regard of complementary postulates, games, a.s.o. at that time.
In his account he says that he "reacted"(sic) (so he did not act).
I guess he followed his intuition (or his heart) and thus resolved
the issue with elegance (Italian style so to say ;-).
A great example of how all knowledge there is, is within ourselves
available - spontaneously - triggered by necessity level only.
(I wonder what the outcome would have been if he would have said:
"Hey listen guys, wait a minute (or a day) with beating me up.
I got to check in my TROM-materials first what this is all
about and figure out with my postulate-failure-cycle-chart, you know ..."
Well, might have been worked as well. Confusion-tactics I think it's
called ;-)
Interestingly enough Pete proposed quite a different approach to the
same issue. Quite workable as well and with a good sense of humor.
(I guess it's more the US-type of problem-solution).
An OT's approach could have been to not get into a situation like
depicted above in the first place. It would not have been any of
the scenarios he perceives himself acting out with a granted probability
greater than zero. I guess this OT would not have had any business in
the military any way.
I've had found myself in a very similar situation than described by
Alessandro at the age of 11 or 12 in this particular lifetime.
It was at school, the lesson already started but the teacher was late
for some reason. So the pupils chatted or made some fuss all around.
I was busy writing something on a sheet of paper when I heard
one of the big and bad guys of that class say to another notorious
trouble-maker something to the effect of: "Hey, lets go over to him
and give him a beat." (His head nodding toward me clearly indicated
that "him" was meant to be me.) The other one with a silly grin agreed
without hesitation.
I pretended to have not overheard their talk and was not in the mood
for a fight. (I would not have had a chance physically against each
of them.) They moved over to my place, grabbed a chair each and sat
down left and right from me - smiling.
Well, it was quite clear for me which way this was planned to pan out.
They were not evil enough to commit an overt of overwhelm before
establishing some kind of motivator. The intention to create such by
means of provocation was clearly written on their faces and in their
body-language.
I did not lose time and addressed the leader of this small pack with:
"Well, I've seen you showed some knowledge with that math problem
posed a couple of days ago. What do you think of this problem I'm
pondering here?"
While saying that I showed him the paper I had put some formulas on.
He looked rather surprised for a moment and then immediately changed
his attitude from provocation-mode to interest. It was not interest in
the math of course. What puzzled him was the fact that he was asked for
assistance. I guess the guy never before in his life had been
communicated
to in a respectful manner and being recognized as a being.
The other one - just parroting the behavioral patterns of "the boss"
changed as well. We finally had a nice little chat which easily gapped
the five minutes until the teacher arrived and the lecture could start.
So we see a multitude of sensible solutions are possible.
It is up to you to "undercut" scenarios which you do not regard
as desirable for yourself by means of anticipating how they might
unfold, already at an early stage (similar to what a master chess-
player does).
There was and is again and again a warning - "the writing on the wall"
- for those who care to look.
Making the sin of omission of not looking at the signs, establishes
the responsibility to bear consequences on the part of the "victims".
Have a nice weekend
Robin
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