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Hi Colleen,
I'm grateful that you provide that additional insights
in the subjects of dry-fasting and breatharianism.
I was not even familiar with that word (breatharianism); could
not find it in the dictionary. But, thanks to google and the www,
I was able to expand my knowledge over that subject.
(http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/breatharianism)
Well, it confirms that it is indeed a controversial issue -
to say the least.
And it places what you did, with your 13-day period of
dry-fast - which you could have even prolonged if it had not been
of the concerns of your loved ones - , in some perspective.
You would deserve a relatively high ranking place
in the row of examples given in the encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com
text. Wow! guts you really have colleen.
Your account is of high significance to me because it's first hand
and I do not have reason to doubt the credibility of the source.
I'm motivated to reconsider my motives and "reasoning" for my
interest in the subject.
When taking a look at the pros and cons, the risks involved compared
to the possible gains on the basis of a _realistic_ assessment of
my current state of abilities I come up with following (preliminary)
results:
My motives are many fold but mainly based on ideology (a subject I
usually (pretend to) abhor when discussing with friends).
Under that aspect it seems immature to put my body at risk just
for proving to "The Powers That Be" (TPTB) (not my term, I've adopted
it from Wes Penre, a researcher in spiritual fields - exScio by the way)
that their strategy does not work on me.
Related to the above, I can honestly state that - under present
circumstances - my body is of great value to me. Not as a means of
representation symbol or cult object, but I do not see much options
at hand in order to get in comm with this 3D+1 physical environment
and its inhabitants otherwise (at least not in an efficient way).
E.g. how would I operate this keyboard here or read your communication
to me, how would I do study and learn things ...
I remember, when I did the purification-rundown in the C.o.S. another
PC, which I was befriend with, said to me: "Do not not-is your body."
Did not make much sense to me then, but the statement contains some
applicable truth.
Since I've never ever in this lifetime had any illnesses (except
those "Kinderkrankheiten" like measels and others up to present time
and no accidents as well, I have somehow developed the idea of "being
undestructable" body-wise (Did you ever see that movie "Unbreakable"
with Bruce Willis, Samauel L. Jackson ?) - something like that.
(I must correct the above statement re. "no accidents". That is not true.
I was involved in accidents with cars, a motorbike, mountain-bikes and
a sailing vessel once, but in all of those incidents somehow managed
to get out with not even a scratch on my body.)
With that kind of track record I felt/still feel tempted to push
things to the limit and it is obvious that this must sooner or
later lead to failure due to miscalculation and self overestimation.
Looking at this from a multiple lifetime perspective and making up
a kind of cost/gain calculation I come to the conclusion that
doing experiments in the direction of "breatharianism" is not the
right thing to do for me - at least not now.
It does not feel like "the right gradient".
And freedom from the undesirable influence of the TPTB can be gained by
other, less radical, means as well.
Thanks colleen for helping me to make up my mind toward that
kind of realizations.
ARC
Robin
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Someone sent this to me. Note at 8:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh4hVXacjxo
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Hello, Robin,
Dennis did warn us that we would start to stretch and reach beyond
human,
and breatharianism or higher would be logical higher viewpoints and
abilities we might take on our way towards those "newer pastures" Dennis
hinted at.
To support your postulate, after one particular session into the
conception
incident, I am convinced this body can be re-trained to utilize its own
internal mechanisms for self-support. I do belong to a breatharianism
facebook group, and eschew their limited morphic field.
I've also been timebreaking to purge overts against this body and
revealed
at least one covert game strategy against bodies and possibly a few IP
states. I think it is also a type of feedback loop.
Of course true freedom comes from not being part of any feedback loop
between our psychotic elite and delusional masses, and I'm positive
Levels
Four and Five will resolve that; however the sense of freedom I
experienced
during the 13-days dryfast was exhilarating, yet not to be compared with
the freedom I experienced by pushing out the corners of my
simplicity-patience-compassion triangle.
Oh, just a sidenote: re ability for compassion, I noticed that when I
took
a caffeine stimulant my compassion dimmed. It was a tradeoff I did not
wish
for.
There is certainly no end of chi or "TIPM" to munch on :-)) but
ultimately
I question the higher ethics of doing that. Once you realize yourself as
Source.... no more need to sustain the vias, the gaming. However I could
see "chi'ing down" as one layer of the onion we might experience on our
way. [Note to self: must make cryptic t-shirt "Just Chi'ing Down"]
To reach and retrain the body to be self-sustaining - for myself - I
believe I would first have to allow the body to prep itself - to largely
exhaust the autophagic responses to long embedded toxins. Dryfasting is
a
quick and simple switch into autophagy. That also makes my TROM sessions
go
smoother - as my brain and nerve cells go through the cycling of wasting
and rebuilding. Timebreaking is important too - for relieving the body
of
psychic masses which tend to settle around the body.
Even though I've known myself without a body I'm still not able to kick
this body habit and I'm certain Level Four, and especially Level Five,
will
complete the job. Timebreaking past covert game strategies with the
"bodies of my body" (my parents) and the purging dryfast immensely
helped
my stability and ease of doing more intelligently structured Level Three
timebreaking.
I wish everyone smooth and happy tromming
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Pete,
In your reply to Alessandro on counter postulates:
Counter postulates and the correct use of them was invented by Jesus:
Praying for your enemy, blessing him and doing good for your enemy is
positing a counter postulate. Return good for evil.
It stops the games condition. It stops the O/W sequence.
That is also the main difference between Christianity and Islam.
Jesus said Love your enemies and the Quran says,.... kill all infidels.
(I am aware that there are lots of arguments that that is not what is
meant
and taken out of context, etc. and it is not my purpose here to argue
one
way or another. The problem with Islam is that it is at least certainly
evidently very prone to extremism and tends not to be peace promoting
religion. This is not an opinion. You just have to look at the social
conditions and livability of middle east Muslim countries Syria, Iran
Libya, Iraq etc. compared to originally Christian based countries.
Where are people fleeing from and where are they seeking refuge? Which
countries are they doing everything possible, to try and get int? .
They are trying to break in, sneak in, begging to get into countries that
are Christian based countries. How many people are fighting to immigrate
to Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya and even other Muslim countries ?
That is because Islam has made their countries unlivable and Christianity
has made the countries of Christians the most livable and successful
countries in the world. That is mainly because of Jesus' teaching to
counter postulate evil with love, prayer, blessings and good will.
I recently met a 27 yr old, very intelligent, sensible, sane, university
educated Muslim woman from Afganistan, who told me it was a big mistake
for Canada to allow all these Muslims immigrants and refugees to come in
here. She said that you just wait and see,..... in 50 yrs they will make
Canada like the country they came from from. I say she was being way to
generous on time. It will likely happen much sooner.
So it is Jesus' operating data to end game conditions, O/M sequences,
and handle evil with a counter postulate to "save the world".
That is all it takes to save the world, is to respond to evil with love,
prayer, blessings and good will.
Because Jesus' tech is evidently not working well enough, (I say; because
it is incomplete) I would add that it also takes good spiritual healing
technology to really it get done. The tech is the completion of Jesus's
teachings. The root problem is the bank.
That is why I say that the tech is actually the second coming of Jesus,
but it was hijacked, corrupted, perverted,defiled, bastardized and used
for very selfish purposes by LRH.
That is my hypothesis.
I cut and pasted a section from:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:43-48
Matthew 5:43-48Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour,
and
hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them
that
curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children
of
your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil
and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For
if
ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the
publicans
the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more *than
others?* do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even
as
your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
The following is from Biblehub site:
5:43-48 The Jewish teachers by neighbour understood only those who were
of
their own country, nation, and religion, whom they were pleased to look
upon as their friends. The Lord Jesus teaches that we must do all the
real
kindness we can to all, especially to their souls. We must pray for them.
While many will render good for good, we must render good for evil; and
this will speak a nobler principle than most men act by. Others salute
their brethren, and embrace those of their own party, and way, and
opinion,
but we must not so confine our respect. It is the duty of Christians to
desire, and aim at, and press towards perfection in grace and holiness.
And
therein we must study to conform ourselves to the example of our heavenly
Father, 1Pe 1:15,16. Surely more is to be expected from the followers of
Christ than from others; surely more will be found in them than in
others.
Let us beg of God to enable us to prove ourselves his children.
Pulpit Commentary <http://biblehub.com/commentaries/pulpit/matthew/5.htm>
Verse 44. - Parallel passage: Luke 6:27, 28
<http://biblehub.com/luke/6-27.htm>. But I say unto you, Love your
enemies.
Of all kinds, whether personal or opponents of you as Christians. Bless
them that curse you, do good to them that hate you. Rightly omitted by
the
Revised Version as interpolated from Luke, (For the thought, cf. 1
Corinthians 4:12 <http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/4-12.htm>; Romans
12:14
<http://biblehub.com/romans/12-14.htm>.) And pray. In fullest contrast to
the continual ill-wishing of the enemy. "They who can pray for their
enemies can accomplish the rest" (Weiss, 'Life,' 2:154). Thus to pray is
to
come very near to the spirit of Christ (cf. Luke 23:34
<http://biblehub.com/luke/23-34.htm>; Acts 7:60
<http://biblehub.com/acts/7-60.htm>). As a modern example: "Some persons
had never had a particular place in my prayers, but for the injuries they
have done to me" (Burkitt, ' Diary,' in Ford, on ver. 5). For them
that despitefully
use you, and persecute you. The words, "that despitefully use you and,"
are
to be omitted, with the Revised Version, as in effect interpolated from
Luke.
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
<http://biblehub.com/commentaries/gill/matthew/5.htm>
But I say unto you, love your enemies,.... That is, as the Apostle Paul
may
be thought to interpret the words of Christ, Romans 12:20
<http://biblehub.com/romans/12-20.htm>. "If thine enemy hunger, feed him:
if he thirst, give him drink": unless our Lord should be supposed rather
to
regard the internal affection of the mind; since outward expressions of
love, by words and works, are urged in the following exhortations: the
actions of a man may be hated, and just indignation be expressed against
them, and yet his person be loved, tenderness be used to him, and pity
shown him: all men, even enemies, are to be loved with a natural love, as
men; though they cannot be loved with a spiritual affection, as brethren
in
Christ: and in natural affection there are degrees, according to the
relation and circumstances that persons stand in to one another.
Bless them that curse you: when wicked men curse you, as Shimei cursed
David, do not "render evil for evil, or railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing"; give good words, use kind language, mild and
soft
expressions; such as may either win upon them, or put them to shame and
silence: "bless, and curse not"; the latter belongs to them, the former
to
you; "let them curse, but bless thou": curses better fit their mouths,
and
blessings thine. Blessing here, does not signify praising them, for that
would be sinful, which is sometimes the sense of the word; nor wishing,
or
praying for a blessing on them, which is right and good; but this is
mentioned afterwards, as distinct from blessing; wherefore, it is better
to
understand it of a sweet and engaging address unto, and behaviour and
conduct towards such, whose mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.
Do good to them that hate you; such as hate you in their hearts, and
discover their hatred by their actions; do not make returns in the same
way, but on the contrary, do them all the good you can; perform all the
kind offices that lie in your power; let them partake of your bounty and
liberality; if poor, feed, clothe, and supply them, as you are able, with
the necessaries of life; and give them wholesome advice for the good of
their souls: by "so doing", you will "heap coals of fire on their heads";
of enemies, make them friends; engage their affections to you, and you
may
be happy instruments in doing them good, both in soul and body:
and pray for them that despitefully use you and persecute you. What
Christ
here commands and advises to, he himself did; for as he hung upon the
cross, he prayed for his crucifiers, who were then using him in the most
despiteful, as well as cruel manner; saying, "Father, forgive them, for
they know not what they do": and in this he has left us an example, that
we
should tread in his steps; and here in he was quickly followed by his
holy
martyr Stephen; who, whilst he was being stoned, prayed for his
persecutors
and murderers, saying, "Lord, lay not this sin to their charge". This
breathes out the true spirit of Christianity, and is peculiar to it. The
whole of this is directly opposite to the tenets of the Jews,
particularly
the Scribes and Pharisees; who allowed of revenge, and keeping anger
against any person that had done them an injury, as has been observed:
and
which were also the sentiments of the Karaites, or Scripturarians,
another
sect among them who kept to the letter of the Scriptures, and rejected
the
traditions of the elders, which the Pharisees held: but in this they
agreed
with them,
"that it was right to do good to their friends, and to forgive them that
asked pardon of them; but to such men who rendered evil, and did not
return
to do well, that they might receive forgiveness, , "it is not forbidden
to
revenge, and to keep anger against them" (s).''
It is indeed said (t) of their former holy men, "Hasideans", which some
have thought to be the same with the "Essenes", and a sort of Christians;
however, were a better sort of Jews; that these
"heard their reproach, but did not return it; and not only so, but they
pardoned him that reproached them, and forgave him.''
And it is reported of these men, that they used to pray to God to pardon
and forgive all that disturbed them. But the Pharisees, whom Christ had
to
do with, and against whom he inveighs, were men of another complexion.
(s) R. Eliahu in Adderet, c. 3. apud Trigland. de Sect. Karaeorum, c. 10.
p. 166, 167. (t) Maimon. Hilch. Talmud Tora. c. 7. sect. 13.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
<http://biblehub.com/commentaries/jfb//matthew/5.htm>
44. But I say unto you, Love your enemies?The word here used denotes
moral
love, as distinguished from the other word, which expresses personal
affection. Usually, the former denotes "complacency in the character" of
the person loved; but here it denotes the benignant, compassionate
outgoings of desire for another's good.
bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for
them
which despitefully use you, and persecute you?The best commentary on
these
matchless counsels is the bright example of Him who gave them. (See 1Pe
2:21-24; and compare Ro 12:20, 21; 1Co 4:12; 1Pe 3:9). But though such
precepts were never before expressed?perhaps not even conceived?with such
breadth, precision, and sharpness as here, our Lord is here only the
incomparable Interpreter of the law in force from the beginning; and this
is the only satisfactory view of the entire strain of this discourse.
Matthew 5:44 Additional Commentaries
<http://biblecommenter.com/matthew/5-44.htm>
Context
Love Your Enemies <http://biblehub.com/matthew/5.htm>
?43 <http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-43.htm>"You have heard that it was
said,
'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.' 44
<http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-44.htm>"But I say to you, love your
enemies
and pray for those who persecute you, 45
<http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-45.htm>so that you may be sons of your
Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and
the
good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.?
Cross References
1 Samuel 24:17 <http://biblehub.com/1_samuel/24-17.htm>
"You are more righteous than I," he said. "You have treated me well, but
I
have treated you badly.
Proverbs 19:11 <http://biblehub.com/proverbs/19-11.htm>
A person's wisdom yields patience; it is to one's glory to overlook an
offense.
Proverbs 25:21 <http://biblehub.com/proverbs/25-21.htm>
If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him
water to drink.
Luke 6:27 <http://biblehub.com/luke/6-27.htm>
"But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those
who hate you,
Luke 6:28 <http://biblehub.com/luke/6-28.htm>
bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
Luke 23:34 <http://biblehub.com/luke/23-34.htm>
Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are
doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
John 13:34 <http://biblehub.com/john/13-34.htm>
"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you
must love one another.
David
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Hi Alessandro
I see your point. If you want to play games with compulsive games
players where they will respect you you have to match their violence and
block their postulates.
If that is what you want to do then you can do it.
But that is a game I have played many times and am working out the
details
of how to not play compulsive games any more.
So how could I handle aggressive guys in the military with a
complementary
postulate.
Nothing comes immediately to mind but that just means I need to work
out a
number of responses to that type of situation such as creating the
impression that a high ranking officer is walking by while snapping to
attention and saluting. When they automatically do the same say "Yes
Sir"
and walk away. They will think someone game me an order and do nothing
to
interfere.
You could also really put these guys off by saying "Please Please push
me
around." They will wonder where the hidden camera is and go away.
Sun Tzu in "The Art of War" suggests that the way to stop an opposing
army
is to put something unexpected in their path. This pleading to be
pushed
around fits that bill.
While Dennis mentioned the complementary postulate if you peruse the
level
5 chart you will find that in any game you have opposing players,
complementary players and an audience but then there are millions of
people
who are doing nothing at all in a particular game. For instance you
could
start a football game and have fellow players, opponent players an
audience
and millions of people who are paying no attention to your game because
they are playing other games.
So this means you can put up a complementary postulate to someone else's
game or no postulate at all as you just wander away uninterested in what
they are doing.
So these toughs come up to you and you tap the button on your cell phone
so it rings and put it to your ear and say "Yes, Sir." And just walk
away
completely ignoring the guys.
I'm sure you could come up with other responses to this situation.
Now let's move up the gradient. The tax man contacts you and says you
owe
sales tax on a shipment you got delivered by truck. You respond by
saying
"I don't recall receiving that item. Can you be more specific on what
was
in the shipment, who was the carrier, what was the parcel number etc.".
"I
can check my records and see if I can figure out what it was. Will you
call
me back tomorrow?"
When the tax man hangs up you go over your feelings about this guy and
what he wants. You release any resistance to paying the bill if you must
but you put out the pan determined postulate that it is such a small tax
bill and so much bother that the tax man would rather just let this one
go
while he takes up a tax bill that will get him more money.
The chances are good that this effort on your part will end up with no
call back from the tax man at all. ( this actually worked for me by the
way.)
So Alessandro you see that complementary postulates is only the first
step
in handling other game players. And what I put above is just a few
examples. You can work out other ways.
Another one comes to mind. People think that if there is a "Law" about
something that it is always uniformly applied. This is definitely not
the
case. For instance if it is the law that you cannot spit on the sidewalk
and it is a capital offense to do so can you think of ways to do it
without
being caught or where being caught will so embarrass the police that
they
will not enforce the rule?
Have fun with developing your skill at not playing others games.
Sincerely
Peter McLaughlin
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> Il 13/03/16 13:00, [email protected] ha scritto:
>> Hi Alessandro
>> What you are proposing with "to out create" being to force another
to
experience what the other is creating is a games condition. Is that
what
you want to do?
>>
>> To me Dennis's idea of creating a complementary postulate to the
suppressive persons game and not playing any games with them is the
better
solution.
>>
>> Just because another gives offense does not mean you have to take
offense.
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Pete McLaughlin
> Hi Pete,
> first of all I had this intuition or you you could call it a
realization.Then I thought about it , and see if it could be used in
life.
> Or how to apply it and if it is worth using it.And think about this :
a
complementary postulate to somebody that is shouting at you saying "you
stupid man!" wouldn't be shouting back to him "you stupid man , I am
not
going playing you stupid game,shut up!".
>
> To bring into existence an opposition postulate to and aggression (be
it verbal or phisical) would be to receive the offence, stay quiet and
go
away.Isn't it ? I know it sounds odd, but think about the fact that
people
like us , that like to live an ethic life , and trying to never arm
someone
else,and that refuse violence , have also put to 0 a class of
postulates,
that suppressive people have put to 1 and use it daily.Lie Dennis says,
when he was making an example about how to program a mind,that what you
do
with this technic is up to you and you are the only one responsible for
any
outcome.I think we should learn and accept to use "violence" , by being
wery much aware about the outcomes.
> Obviously and don't go aroung shouting to any people that offends me.
There is a gradient scale.You have to use with some common sense to the
situation you are facing.You can go from standing firmly on you word,not
accepting any provocation remaining calm , to shout like hell,if needed.
> If we assign to win the value 1 and to lose the value 0 , then all the
possible classes of outcomes you can experience,are"
>
> Myself the other guy
>
> class 1) 1 and 0 = I win the other
lose , means I use violence to him , but this not the case so I put
this
postulates class to 0 in my daily life
>
> class 2) 0 and 1 = I lose the other
wins
, means I receive the aggression , keep silent , and accept to be a
victim.you put this class of postulates
> to 1 if
you
don't react .
>
> class 3) 0 and 0 = we both lose ,
means
we both kill each other ?
>
> class 4) 1 and 1 = we both win , means
we both demostrate to the other our strength , and we both decide to
not go
on , and we respect each
>
other.(this
class of postulates I experienced . For example once in my life . when I
was doing the military service,I was sent to
> a new
barrack.There I was a new person to all the other person there.The
second
day I was there , while I was dressing myself,
> two other
guys came to me and says "let's see how strong you are" , and they
assaulted me.I didn't try to escape or to avoid
> the fight,
instead I react and attacked them.The results ? they stopped fighting
and
from that moment I gained their respect.
>
> What do you think ?
> happy RI-ing
> alessandro.
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