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Robin,
I acknowledge your reply. Thanks, David On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:38 AM, The Resolution of Mind list < [email protected]> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > David, > > thanks for "food for thought" on this issue of native state, nirvana, ... > > I'm glad you're talking to me. I'm - hopefully - not going to repeat past > errors > of which I'm too well aware. You know what I'm referring to. > > I'm sincerely grateful for the lessons you taught me ... unknowingly or > not. > > I've said it once - and it is one of the few things I said to you which > I'm willing to repeat unaltered - "it's good to have you around here." > > In prayers I do not believe and thus I do not pray, but if I would I > sure would include you in them. So, instead I borrow Colleen's wonderful > closing sentence: > > "I am postulating the best outcome for you." > > Robin > > > > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:00:03 +0200, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Send TROM mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of TROM digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: "Native State" - (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15) >> (The Resolution of Mind list) >> 2. Re: "Native State" - (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15) >> (The Resolution of Mind list) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:13:42 -0400 >> From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >> To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] "Native State" - (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, Issue >> 15) >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Robin, >> >> >> Briefly.... >> >> Based on what I learned from research and my experience: >> >> The true state of clear or nirvana is the same as the kingdom of heaven >> and the kingdom of God. >> >> >> >> Based on my experienced, what is required is, a perfect set of ethics and >> adherence to. >> >> And a noble saintly Godly character. >> >> >> You have to clear out all engrams which means: go genuinely clear. >> >> (There are no genuine bonafide clears in scn. It is impossible under that >> system (or on that bridge,..... that bridge is a con job and a trap. >> Hubbard perverted it for his own evil game.) >> >> >> >> You have to exhaust all the evil and asshole traits in you and not shit on >> anyone, and desire not to play games. >> >> The road to the kingdom of heaven is straight and narrow. >> >> (You don't stop at the road side bar for a cold one on the way there.) >> >> >> >> Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect. >> >> >> And Jesus said; No one comes unto the Father except through me. >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:46 PM, The Resolution of Mind list < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>> ************ >>> Hi David, >>> >>> The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain it >>> >>>> (stay in it). >>>> >>>> >>> Yes, I guess you make a good point here. >>> >>> Perhaps one has to go through some kind of hells first in order to >>> value this state properly? >>> >>> We'll see. >>> >>> >>> Robin >>> >>> >>> ------------------ >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:45:03 +0200, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Send TROM mailing list submissions to >>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of TROM digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: Message To David P. -- (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, Issue >>>> 13) (The Resolution of Mind list) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:51:50 -0400 >>>> From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >>>> To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Message To David P. -- (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, >>>> Issue 13) >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> Robin, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your reply and input. >>>> >>>> Quoting you: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *I guess it does not end (in our terms) and may theoretically lead to >>>> 'native state'. Which we once had but did not find too desirable because >>>> it's no fun.* >>>> >>>> >>>> I had a couple of very good releases in years past, (two weeks each) >>>> where >>>> I would say I was in something that I would call native state or >>>> certainly >>>> very close it. >>>> >>>> >>>> It was amazing, exciting and incredible fun, the ultimate fun, the >>>> ultimate existence. >>>> >>>> The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain it >>>> (stay in it). >>>> >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> TROM mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160913 >> /12f4aefb/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:19:37 -0700 >> From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] "Native State" - (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, Issue >> 15) >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I see "native state" or Nirvana much more explicitly as: >> >> To simply Be or exist >> Totally happy which means lacking for nothing, having everything I want >> already no matter how little that may be. >> Having no desire to do anything >> With good will toward others. No need to get anything from others or >> force anything on others. >> >> So the simple statement is >> >> to Be with total happiness and good will toward all. >> >> It is not difficult to achieve for at least short periods of time. With >> practice we can remain in the state longer and with much processing of TROM >> maintain the state permanently. >> >> We also achieve this state while in dreamless sleep. Dreaming is usually >> a games condition so not Nirvana. >> >> >> >> Sincerely >> Pete Mclaughlin >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 13, 2016, at 6:13 AM, The Resolution of Mind list < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>> ************ >>> Robin, >>> >>> >>> Briefly.... >>> >>> Based on what I learned from research and my experience: >>> >>> The true state of clear or nirvana is the same as the kingdom of heaven >>> and the kingdom of God. >>> >>> >>> >>> Based on my experienced, what is required is, a perfect set of ethics >>> and adherence to. >>> >>> And a noble saintly Godly character. >>> >>> >>> You have to clear out all engrams which means: go genuinely clear. >>> >>> (There are no genuine bonafide clears in scn. It is impossible under >>> that system (or on that bridge,..... that bridge is a con job and a trap. >>> Hubbard perverted it for his own evil game.) >>> >>> >>> >>> You have to exhaust all the evil and asshole traits in you and not shit >>> on anyone, and desire not to play games. >>> >>> The road to the kingdom of heaven is straight and narrow. >>> >>> (You don't stop at the road side bar for a cold one on the way there.) >>> >>> >>> >>> Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect. >>> >>> >>> And Jesus said; No one comes unto the Father except through me. >>> >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:46 PM, The Resolution of Mind list < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> ************* >>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>>> ************ >>>> Hi David, >>>> >>>> The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain it >>>>> (stay in it). >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, I guess you make a good point here. >>>> >>>> Perhaps one has to go through some kind of hells first in order to >>>> value this state properly? >>>> >>>> We'll see. >>>> >>>> >>>> Robin >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:45:03 +0200, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Send TROM mailing list submissions to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of TROM digest..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Re: Message To David P. -- (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, Issue >>>>> 13) (The Resolution of Mind list) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:51:50 -0400 >>>>> From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >>>>> To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Message To David P. -- (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, >>>>> Issue 13) >>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> >>>>> Robin, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your reply and input. >>>>> >>>>> Quoting you: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *I guess it does not end (in our terms) and may theoretically lead to >>>>> 'native state'. Which we once had but did not find too desirable >>>>> because >>>>> it's no fun.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I had a couple of very good releases in years past, (two weeks each) >>>>> where >>>>> I would say I was in something that I would call native state or >>>>> certainly >>>>> very close it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It was amazing, exciting and incredible fun, the ultimate fun, the >>>>> ultimate existence. >>>>> >>>>> The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain >>>>> it >>>>> (stay in it). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TROM mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TROM mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160913 >> /4ebec3ce/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TROM mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> >> End of TROM Digest, Vol 143, Issue 17 >> ************************************* >> > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >
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