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Hi Vorb,
I have had plenty of problems running TROM too. I have been doing it since 2008. TROM was extremely difficult for me to do for the first 5- 6 yrs. It just about killed me. I started and quit many times. I had to actually get some other auditing to take some charge off. I combined TROM with other practices. I have used Sedona, Aspectika, Deep Peat. I do not know the Peat numbers. But I made gains, and lots of them. I learned to do dichotomy processing, DEEP PEAT and time breaking in bed, before I fell asleep, and if I woke up at night.. It worked very well for me. Did for about 4 yrs at least. RI does not do much for me either, although I do a bit. Keep this in mind: Just because Dennis said it, does not mean it is true. Or it does not mean it applies to all cases. Any idea is only as good as it works. The value of a datum is only determined by how many problems it solves and how well it solves them. And no other factor. You can change anything and make your own TROM. It sounds like you have did some scientology. And you know how to use a meter. I only read the scn books a few times and did a lot of research on line. With the exception of doing three elementary intro courses, before getting declared after a few days in scn, (for asking them why they were still all coo coo after being so many yrs in scn, if scn was so good) I have not done any scn in an org of any kind. But an old timer told me, several yrs ago, that he can tell by talking to me, I have done the equivalent of up to OT 3, at least. I do not have a meter, nor do I know how to use one. What came to mind about the problems you are experiencing, is that you may be below zero on the tone scale and operating on valences. You may have catatonia and cataplexy or some other disorder . I have those problems. There are no two cases alike. You may only be processing a valence. I do not feel like writing any more. If you have any questions, please ask. Or if you want to do some TROM or other process, on skype, as in auditing fashion, let me know. David On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 6:34 AM, The Resolution of Mind list < [email protected]> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > > Hi Vorb > Sounds to me like you overrunning a process past its end point > > What are trying to accomplish with TROM? Re establish what is Wrong that > you are trying to fix and work on that or as Dennis tells it find something > you are interested in running and run that. > > I have been reading "Scientology, The Fundamentals of Thought" for the > past few days. This is obviously the book that TROM is based on and LRH > gives some examples of what to run. > You should read it and see if there is anything in your mind that you > still want to process. > > Sincerely > Pete McLaughlin > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:56 AM, The Resolution of Mind list < > [email protected]> wrote: > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > > Hi Guys, > > Let me show you a trend here. When I started > trom I went through all my life's significant > events, until none of them produced change. > After that of course I had trouble > finding events to run on level 2. > I even resorted to run my dreams. Then I > started to find events again. I thought all > was going well, until I noticed that I can > yawn 30 minutes on events that have no charge > at all, events where you just walk on the > street, or cock home alone or run in the park. > Then to my big surprise I realized that I can > yawn 30 minutes on events that happened that > very morning, with no charge at all (on level 2) > I wrote about this here: > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/2016-August/005376.html > > RI never produce any change for me, so I > usually did it a few minutes and then > moved on the the actual process, which brought > yawning within 60 seconds. I NEVER yawned on RI. > But in the last 10 hours I started to yawn on RI too, > causing me to do RI for 20-25 minutes, while the > yawning was happening. After 25 minutes the yawning > suddenly stops, and I can start my excercise. The > yawning is not so heavy compared to an event, but it > is still there. My e-meter also verifies this: > there are hardly any needle movements, almost lifeless > but still there is some movement. > > Can anyone explaing me what is happening? > > Thinking about it, it totally looks like I am > advancing backwards. Maybe a week from now I will > have to run RI for 60 minutes to run the yawning out. > Then I can say that I got from Level 2 to Level 1 > with 170 hours of hard work and 2 years of effort. > (I started on level 2 about 2 years ago, and never > got any higher) > > Thanks, Vorb > > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >
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