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1. Hi David - Re: TROM Digest, Vol 144, Issue 30
(The Resolution of Mind list)
2. jesus words (The Resolution of Mind list)
3. Re: Hi David - Re: TROM Digest, Vol 144, Issue 30
(The Resolution of Mind list)
4. Negativism (The Resolution of Mind list)
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:18:20 +0100
From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
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Subject: [TROM1] Hi David - Re: TROM Digest, Vol 144, Issue 30
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David, take all the time you need. We're not in a hurry or
collecting study points for the sake of a statistic here ;-)
Did not mean to push you, just had some spare time to do that
recent write-up.
I've the feeling you're doing fine with your clearing work.
How about replacing the (aberrating) with (restimulative)?
I think, auditing which does not restimulate to a certain degree
is not real good auditing. It seems you're going through much
changes. I really admire your persistence.
This citation of Jesus makes me think. I've some vague ideas
what it could mean but not more than that. Somewhere - and I
really wished I could remember where - I read something similar
(perhaps in the Oahspe material?). If I find out I let you know.
Greetings
Robin
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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 15:44:42 -0400
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To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
Subject: [TROM1] Mysterious meaning words by Jesus
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I just started reading the Nag Hammadi material,
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-VQak8K5FtBf5Aa6X/The%20Nag%20Hammadi%20Library_djvu.txt
and close to the beginning I came across these mysterious words:
Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring
forth will save you. If you do not
bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy
you."
I find them very interesting.
It makes me ask; do the words mean to do a catharsis, what we call
auditing or processing?
David
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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 16:19:22 -0400
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Robin,
I acknowledge your post.
Thanks.
I was working on a reply to your previous post asking to explain the
problems I am having with L5, but I can only handle so much TROM over
a
certain period of time.
So sometimes it takes a while.
I find TROM about as equally traumatic and overwhelming (aberrating)
as
it's ability to resolve case. :)
David
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 17:42:56 +0100
From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
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Subject: [TROM1] jesus words
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Il 30/10/16 13:00, [email protected] ha scritto:
Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring
forth will save you. If you do not
bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will
destroy you."
hello trommers,
my understanding is this.Imagine consciousness existing in the void ,
with nothing attached to it.You simply exist.You don't have a body,you
don't have a mind,
you don't have universe.You have in a state with no-game.Then you have
pure consciousness.That is what , for me , Jesus means with the " if you
bring forth ..."
what is within us is consciousness engaged with no games.I have never
reached that state,Because there is always something running in my
mind.A ptp (present time problem), a future goal to achieve, etc.But if
could achieve this state of pure consciousness with no game to deal
with, we can just take a breath,look at the games , and change them the
way we like , instantly (and here we do make miracles).A physicist
Nassin Haramein ,suggest that at a quantum level reality flashes in and
out of existence.We should be able to reach the point of pure
consciousness,change the image we are projecting into existence (first
ability of life :"bring something into existence" , and so to speak
manifest a miracle. Of course you can't reach this state of ability ,
with compulsive games hanging around.
SO what do you think ? isn't time to start bringing some miracles into
existence and play with them ?
miracle tromming,
alessandro.
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 12:19:25 -0400
From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Hi David - Re: TROM Digest, Vol 144, Issue 30
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Robin,
I was surprised to read your mention of the book Oahspe.
That is one of my all time favorite books.
It was very much a life changing (and outlook on the world and universe
and
it's other dimensions) book, which I first read in 92.
It is a perfect book to act as a balancer to scn.
Re; Your comments on my processing:
You may have a point there.
I do a lot of thinking and evaluating of what is going on.
It appears to me that I have been mostly processing a valence all this
time, through various kinds of auditing since I began in 97.
And this is the one that is quite flat on L 4.
That does not explain exactly what is going on, only in a way or partly.
There is an impenetrable barrier to a lot of stuff or the worst stuff,
(that is not penetrable in auditing sessions), but does break through
during the rough and tumble of everyday life and it is very aberrated,
It is the "me" that I suppressed or covered up (as a result of an abusive
and totally fucked up suppressive childhood heavily implanted with false
and limiting data and bad control, incl a number of severe beatings) by
constructing an alternative identity, to attempt to function normally in
life.
It is most embarrassing and often offensive or insulting to others, and
embarrassing and humiliating to me.
Under normal conditions it is totally numb or paralyzed.
It consists of some forms of catatonia and cataplexy, and schitzotypal
personality disorder, to name some things.
It is likely the severe beatings that cause the cataplexy and catatonia,
and other forms of extreme overwhelm.
David
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David, take all the time you need. We're not in a hurry or
collecting study points for the sake of a statistic here ;-)
Did not mean to push you, just had some spare time to do that
recent write-up.
I've the feeling you're doing fine with your clearing work.
How about replacing the (aberrating) with (restimulative)?
I think, auditing which does not restimulate to a certain degree
is not real good auditing. It seems you're going through much
changes. I really admire your persistence.
This citation of Jesus makes me think. I've some vague ideas
what it could mean but not more than that. Somewhere - and I
really wished I could remember where - I read something similar
(perhaps in the Oahspe material?). If I find out I let you know.
Greetings
Robin
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 15:44:42 -0400
From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
Subject: [TROM1] Mysterious meaning words by Jesus
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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I just started reading the Nag Hammadi material,
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-VQak8K5FtBf5Aa6X/The%20Nag%
20Hammadi%20Library_djvu.txt
and close to the beginning I came across these mysterious words:
Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring
forth will save you. If you do not
bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will
destroy
you."
I find them very interesting.
It makes me ask; do the words mean to do a catharsis, what we call
auditing or processing?
David
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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 16:19:22 -0400
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Robin,
I acknowledge your post.
Thanks.
I was working on a reply to your previous post asking to explain the
problems I am having with L5, but I can only handle so much TROM
over a
certain period of time.
So sometimes it takes a while.
I find TROM about as equally traumatic and overwhelming (aberrating)
as
it's ability to resolve case. :)
David
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 12:45:53 -0400
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I just learned something interesting from mainstream psychology, called
negativism
Definition of *negativism*
1.
an attitude of mind marked by skepticism especially about nearly
everything affirmed by others
2.
a tendency to refuse to do, to do the opposite of, or to do
something
at variance with what is asked
3. a contrarian
4. *. * The practice or habit of being skeptical, critical, or
pessimistic, especially toward the views or suggestions of others.
*5. * Behavior characterized by persistent refusal, without apparent
or
logical reasons, to act on or carry out suggestions, orders, or
instructions of others.
*6. *a tendency to be or a state of being unconstructively critical
*7. * (Philosophy) any sceptical or derisive system of thought
*8. * (Psychiatry) *psychiatry* refusal to do what is expected or
suggested
or the tendency to do the opposite
9. being condescending
10. A psychological disorder. A personality disorder.
This is classic "bank" talking and acting.
A significant part of the population is that way today.
David
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