Blainer) What do you mean, " Anyone can read the passage for > themselves and > see that Paul is not talking about the various kinds of flesh in the > resurrection, but simply that the flesh of the spiritual body > differs from > the flesh of the physical body?" As I read this, I see no essential difference between what you guys teach and what I am saying, other than the part concerning the different glories of the resurrected flesh, or the different levels of spirituality inherited in the resurrection. I think that is pretty plain--one of the plainest passages in the Bible, in fact.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:11:08 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blainer wrote: > > BUT there must be more than one level of heaven, > > Glenn, because Paul talks about various kinds of > > flesh in the resurrection, one likened to the sun, > > one to the moon and one to the stars. Maybe you > > have never noticed this scripture because most > > Protestant ministers do not understand it so do not > > talk about it much, maybe huh? > > We are very much aware of the passage in 1 Cor. 15 that discusses > this > subject. I am so well aware of it that I know what chapter it is in > without > having to ask you and without having to look it up. Why do you > PRESUME that > Protestants are ignorant of this passage? Why do you PRESUME that > there is > little teaching on this chapter? Blainer) Mainly because whenever I bring it up, I get a blank stare. LOL > > What I'm concerned about is what kind of erroneous teaching you have > received on this passage. Anyone can read the passage for > themselves and > see that Paul is not talking about the various kinds of flesh in the > resurrection, but simply that the flesh of the spiritual body > differs from > the flesh of the physical body. He uses creation to explain how God > has > already given us hints about the difference between earthly and > spiritual. > Paul makes use of the analogy of a seed dying in the ground and > transforming > into something more glorious. Many Protestant teachers, when > teaching from > this passage, give a similar example of a catepillar changing into a > butterfly, to augment what is taught here in this very familiar > passage. > Following is a quote from the Bible so all can see that it does not > say what > you claim that it says: > > **** 1 Cor. 15:35-54 **** > But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what > body do > they come? Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, > except it > die: And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that > shall be, > but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: But > God > giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own > body. All > flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, > another > flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are > also > celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the > celestial is > one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory > of the > sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: > for one > star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the > resurrection of > the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It > is sown > in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is > raised in > power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. > There is a > natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, > The first > man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening > spirit. > Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is > natural; > and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the > earth, > earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, > such are > they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they > also that > are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall > also > bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh > and > blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption > inherit > incorruption. Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, > but we > shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at > the last > trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised > incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must > put on > incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this > corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall > have put > on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is > written, > Death is swallowed up in victory. > (1Co 15:35-54) > **** > David Miller. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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