Re: [TruthTalk] Why LDS are anti-protestant.

[Charles Locke]

DaveH, very fair.

I can understand your not wanting to discuss the sacred secret incantations and incultations of the LDS temple endowments, especially when one considers the grotesque and morbid penalties the LDS must swear to undergo for so doing. There certainly is a price to pay for knowing such sacred secret things.

How did the secret grips, signs, tokens, and penalties used in the LDS temple ceremonies originate? From whence cometh these to Joseph Smith?

I understand that you may refuse to even admit that such pagan symbolism is used in the LDS temple, and I respect your right to hold on to those secrets (even though they are widely available for anyone to read), but I have heard that he stole them from the Freemasons and, in fact, have read that JS WAS a freemason, and was wondering what the official LDS position is on the use of these symbols of Freemasonry in the LDS temple endowments.

Thanks,
Perry





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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why LDS are anti-protestant.
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:31:33 -0800

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Charles Locke wrote:

> �� I erroneously posted this under an old "Subject:" heading, and thought
> that might cause some to skip over it, so have re-posted it under a new
> subject heading.

DAVEH:� I saw it, but have not had the time to respond.� Last night I got fed up with my overloaded INBOX and moved approximately 500 unanswered TT posts to my UNANSWERED folder!� Now my inbox is vastly cleaner, but who knows what questions I've not
answered!

> � Ever wondered why most LDS have such a negative attitude towards
> protestantism?
>
> � First, JS claims that god told him that ALL Christian denominations are an
> abomination to him. To say that someone's Christian beliefs are an
> "abomination" to god is a very serious accusation,

DAVEH:� Especially when the Lord reportedly said it.....�� ;-)

> and one that the LDS have
> downplayed

DAVEH:� I don't see that it has been downplayed at all.� Nothing has changed from my (LDS) perspective.� Perhaps Protestants see it differently though.

> in recent years in their bid for acceptance as Christians.
>
> � Second, I recall reading that one of the LDS temple indoctrinations uses
> actors playing the roles of Satan and a Baptist minister, and the play
> depicts the Baptist minister making a deal with Satan! Seeing this drama in
> the context of the holy LDS temple places the LDS between the horns (so to
> speak) of a tough ethical and spiritual dilemma...either he/she believes
> that protestant ministers make deals with Satan, or he/she is not a true,
> good, believing LDS. After all, to reject one point of the LDS temple
> ceremony would be to cast doubt on all of it.
>
> � DaveH and Blaine, have either one of you ever played one or both of these
> roles in an LDS temple drama?

DAVEH:� Other than refer to general information that is commonly/openly discussed (viz., the ordinances that take place in the temples, like baptism for the dead and sealings), I prefer not to discuss the sacred details of the ordinances of our temples,
Perry.

> � Do either of you believe that the scene reflects the truth, or is it truly
> just LDS propaganda?
>
> Perry

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