David Miller wrote: > Are there any church members who are not > Christians?
Laura wrote: > They are Christians by profession but that doesn't > mean they are by God's definition. Oh. So you are saying now that your definition of "Christian" is God's definition? So they are Christians, but not according to your definition, and not according to God's definition? Do I understand you right on this? David Miller wrote: > If they are not Christian, what religion > are they? Laura wrote: > A person can say whatever they want > - only God knows but a little "fruit inspection" > usually reveals the truth. I'm asking YOU to tell me what religion they are. Suppose we consider a person who claims to follow Jesus Christ, who joins a church, is baptized by that church, attends it regularly and all that, but they are not saved. According to your definition of "Christian," they are not Christian. What religion do you say that they are? When they answer a questionaire, you (and God, according to you) obviously do not believe that they should answer that they are Christian. What check box should they check? What religion are they? David Miller wrote: > About 85% of the people in the United States report > that they are Christians. Do they use your definition > of "Christian" when they answer this question? Laura wrote: > My "personal" opinion is that they often say Christian > when they either don't understand or haven't heard > about salvation. So, then am I correct in understanding that they are NOT using your definition of Christian, but some other definition of Christian? Would you say that your definition of "Christian" is in the minority or majority? David Miller wrote: > What percentage of our population who report > that they are Christians use your definition of > "Christian"? Laura wrote: > It doesn't matter they lie if they say they are > Christians and are not saved. It does matter if we are trying to use words to communicate. If 84% of our population uses a definition which you reject, then I might ask what good it is to insist upon using your esoteric definition that only 1% of the people use? Why not use the same definition as the 84%? Lying implies an intention to deceive. Do you really believe that all these people who profess to be Christians know that they really are not Christians but they want to deceive other people? Are these Jews or Muslims doing this? What religious sect is it that is pretending to be Christians and lying to all of us? Laura wrote: > The bottom line is that you have to be born again to be > a Christian in the truest sense of the word. I agree that > it is misused. I do NOT believe Hitler was a Christian. Well, if a Christian is only a born again saved person, then I agree with you that Hitler was no Christian. But if by Christian we mean someone who is part of a religion which professes to follow Christ, then the evidence is overwhelming that Hitler was a Christian and that he used the Bible and millions of Christians to accomplish his hatred toward the Jews. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
